First Strike Forums — RANDOM SHOOTING

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (ToiletDuck) — Mon, 22 May 2006 15:09:37 +0000

Wait wait wait.... BF2 has bullet drop? Any idea how much? Is it on the sniper rifle?

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Dragunov) — Mon, 22 May 2006 11:35:20 +0000

well watch the movies

Imperials did run around when shooting and missed alot, well they even missed when they where in a prone position (Episode IV --> troopers chasing Luke and Leia)

When chewie shoots, he stands most of the time still to aim his crossbow, and most of the time, they are direct hits

the trooper who hit Leia in episode VI stood perfectly still

And sometimes it was just luck when they killed a person when running (Han)

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Bandu) — Sun, 21 May 2006 23:05:26 +0000

There has to be a drastic drop in accuracy when moving . Its called Star Wars , not Strafe Wars

Were makin a SW simulation not a strafey SW arcade game like SWBF1/2 .

I agree about the point blank problem . Iv lost count how many times iv been killled by a pistol off 1 shot when iv leathered into the guy with my machine gun . Then again , if pistols didnt have an advantage at close range it would be useless.

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (FSDev| Ulversial) — Sun, 21 May 2006 22:36:27 +0000

I'm not sure but the random shooting is probably made worse by net lag which is tied to the engine itself, in that case there's not too much we can do. Testing and testing is how we'll get it right.

Necro: ulversial sort of means "spirit of the wold"/"wolf soul" in ancient norse, fyi

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Necronaught) — Sun, 21 May 2006 21:39:52 +0000

Ulver agreed 100 percent. Running and gunning never was cool. But the random shooting deafult for BF2 really is a poor example of realism and is intended for balancing only as discussed by DICE previously. your name is similar to one of my favorite bands! Ulver = Wolf

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (FSDev| Ulversial) — Sun, 21 May 2006 21:27:56 +0000

more accurate when zoomed in / iron sights, yeah that's possible. personally I would want the players to be forced to stand still/crouch/prone for 100 percent accuracy, running should increase the deviation rather much otherwise it'll all turn out into some strafe/skate shootout, not very convincing and sort of ruins the feeling at least for me. Rest assured that we'll try our best to find the best balance between the extremes

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Dragunov) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:58:02 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Necronaught) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:46:23 +0000

why does a laser travel less thsan the speed of light one has to ask?

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Dragunov) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:43:27 +0000

star wars weapons:

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Li … rs_weapons

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Necronaught) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:36:29 +0000

Dragunov wrote:

lasers fire in straight line in real

Yes they do but blasters are different. They seem like projectiles in the movies?

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Dragunov) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:31:03 +0000

lasers fire in straight line in real

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Necronaught) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:25:31 +0000

its completely unrealistic at the ranges I have experienced. Even short bust firing with the M16 on 3 round burst is deviated too far.
I understand the need fror reducing aim whilst moving but random is not good. GC had excellent shooting and the hits to kill were very acceptable, nothing was random even on the move. You couldn't aim very well but the shots, as you could see by the tracers, went where they were supposed to. Bf2 i get bullet marks miles away from where the iron sights are homed in on. Maybe random shooting or deviation could be implemented for shooting with out iron sights but removed when in iron sight view? I am just happy you guys are making this mod

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (FSDev| Ulversial) — Sun, 21 May 2006 20:08:34 +0000

bf2 has a thing called deviation modifier depending on how long you've shot, if you are moving, crouch etc. The modifier makes the bullet deviate with a random direction, and this modifier changes depending on situation as I said.

For instance if you shoot single shots you'll hit pretty much excactly where you aim, but if you shoot a whole mag in a single cascade, you'll get a lot of devation and not hit much after the first few shots.

We've got complete controll over these modifiers for our own weapons obviosly, not sure how we'll do it though. Having them makes it all more realistic, you'll not hit very good while you're running for example, but hit much better when you stand still and crouch.

we'll see

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Necronaught) — Sun, 21 May 2006 19:29:59 +0000

Operation Flashpoin has realistic ballistics and you hit where you aim at distances under 300 meters. BF2 you can miss with a whole magazine at close range. Really frustrating.

Re: RANDOM SHOOTING

null@example.com (Slave1) — Sun, 21 May 2006 19:27:41 +0000

thats becuase BF2 has cross hairs and bullet drop. I dunno how FS is gonna do it though.

sweet my 1 hunderth post!!!!