First Strike Forums — First Strike 2142

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (FSDev| AQUILA) — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:06:52 +0000

we cant promise anything at mo for massive space ships. we DID get our ISD into game on BF2 but the size took up most the map. with the new titan mode lets hope we can develop it into a cool space feature!

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bewilderbeast) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:31:29 +0000

I loved both judicator and space maps in GC. The blockade runners and frigates for the rebels looked awesome and were great to blow up with TIE fighters, but the imperial ships were too dumb looking.

I must quote Darth Vader's worst quote from Episode III "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

about no BF2 mod....

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Kyp Lorran) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:17:47 +0000

I loved the Judicator-Map, but I hated all Space-Maps from GC!!! In BattleFRONT 2 the Spacebattles ar much better than in GC

I hope in your Spacemaps we can run around on the big ships!!! I mean not just a little bit like in Battlefront2!! I mean nearly the hole ship!! you could make little vehicles, which transport you from one place to the other! Like from the Bridge to the Hangar and so on!!

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Mr. Wookiee) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:03:41 +0000

Will the battle over Endor include mon calamari star cruisers? and how to scale will you be able to make multiple destroyers without hogging the entire map?

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bandu) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:55:57 +0000

I never played GC but the 1st batch of maps , at present , wont include an all interior SD map. The maps are , at present.... Endor (ground) , Battle over Endor ( Space) , Hoth and Mos Espa.

The space map will , of course , have an interior which you can board.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bandu) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:52:42 +0000

Nothing for BF2 , sorry.

No point.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bewilderbeast) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:51:44 +0000

That sounds great! Would there be one like judicator too, where youre inside a star destroyer? (judicator from GC for bf1942)

But will there still be at least a beta release for BF2? Can't hurt could it?

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bandu) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:44:55 +0000

Bewilderbeast wrote:

I am only concerned about the move to 2142 if there is no BF2 release whatsoever. I think EA has handled BF2 quite well, with the notable exception of not hardware banning stat padders, and claymore whoring being implemented in 1.21. But every game company screws up, and online shooters are the most difficult to make work.
Really, what could hurt about releasing a BF2 version without walkers and various flying things, or whatever 2142 allows? Personally, I dont dislike EA, but I have never had the slightest intention of buying 2142 and unfortunately even this great mod ain't quite worth 50 bucks on its own. Mainly because BF2 has so many great mods to begin with.
Because of this the only reason I would buy 2142 would be to play this mod.
However, if this mod has some outrageously sweet space battles, anything where you can man a turbolaser on a movable star destroyer and start whaling on blockade runners, that is CERTAINLY worth 50 bucks from me. So when the workable star destroyers and epic space battles appear, thats when I buy 2142 for this mod.

The 1st batch of maps will include a space map ( battle over Endor) and will include pilotable Star Destroyers with man-able turbolasers and more ....

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bewilderbeast) — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:49:19 +0000

I am only concerned about the move to 2142 if there is no BF2 release whatsoever. I think EA has handled BF2 quite well, with the notable exception of not hardware banning stat padders, and claymore whoring being implemented in 1.21. But every game company screws up, and online shooters are the most difficult to make work.

Really, what could hurt about releasing a BF2 version without walkers and various flying things, or whatever 2142 allows? Personally, I dont dislike EA, but I have never had the slightest intention of buying 2142 and unfortunately even this great mod ain't quite worth 50 bucks on its own. Mainly because BF2 has so many great mods to begin with.

Because of this the only reason I would buy 2142 would be to play this mod.

However, if this mod has some outrageously sweet space battles, anything where you can man a turbolaser on a movable star destroyer and start whaling on blockade runners, that is CERTAINLY worth 50 bucks from me. So when the workable star destroyers and epic space battles appear, thats when I buy 2142 for this mod.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (FSDev| Ramseus) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:47:09 +0000

One important thing that everyone overlooks is that the base games now (BF2 and BF2142) are produced in Sweden by DICE, and that same studio is also responsible for patches. The expansion pack and booster packs are made by DICE Canada... in Canada, a seperate studio.

So you've got two studios, with expansion content and entirely new games being made at the same time. This, and the fact that game studios are always growing to meet the demands of modern games, means that you have to have far more people working for you then you'd normally have, and therefore $50 isn't enough to make a healthy profit off of the initial development, continuing development, and expansion development.

I'm sure that the content made by DICE Canada more than doubles that of vanilla bf2, and that just didn't happen in 1942 so the argument is invalid.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (FSDev| xEROhOUR) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:13:43 +0000

Oh now you got me, an Expansion I would say.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bandu) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:27:45 +0000

Right, I understand that ... I just assumed the other booster packs were similar in size to Special Forces.

I take it Special Forces was an expansion and not a booster pack then?

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (FSDev| xEROhOUR) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:51:24 +0000

Yeah what hes saying is that those Maps he mentioned where provided in the free Patches for bf1942 and almost reflect what can be found as an addon Booster Pack for BF2 today for which we pay.

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (Bandu) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:21:35 +0000

Hmmm ... Special Forces has loads of maps .... or am i missing something?

Re: First Strike 2142

null@example.com (generalandrew) — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:05:48 +0000

Ok, the booster packs bring in, each, about three maps and several new weapons. Here's what EA did before the booster packs: (Battle of Britian Objective Mode in Patch v1.6), Invasion of the Phillipeans (with new Marine skins for all Pacific maps and new vehicles for both US and Japan, Patch v1.45), Liberation of Caen and Raid on Agheila (Caen adding a new army with new assault weapons and vehciles for both Germany and Australia Patch v1.6). This is why I'm mad. EA's charging what they used to do for free. Really, what's listed above is more than what a booster pack does today, and for more money. And there was alot of additional features added with BF: V patches as well.

About someone said something about a game can't be 100% perfect and that every game will have bugs- I agree, nor is that what I'm trying to say either. I don't expect any game to be 100% perfect.
And who knows, MABYE, I will buy BF: 2142 in hopes that EA learned from BF: 2, and they release quality patches again, with media added.

-I'm stopping my self here, this'll be the last I post on this thread made by me.-