First Strike Forums — Pretty sad...

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (FSDev| xEROhOUR) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:48:01 +0000

Thread closed all points noted.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (generalandrew) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:25:05 +0000

I understand where you're coming from. If you can look down at my sig, I've ranted many times about BF: 2142, but I decided to buy it anyway, for this mod. That's my own prerogative as it is yours and the rest of the community. No one is forcing any of us to buy this game. And I think it will be a short time untill release because they have alot of the models and textures completed, it's just a matter of porting the over. The engine really is just about the same as BF: 2, only allowing walking legs for one the biggest improvements.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (solidgear) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:12:12 +0000

it's there mod, yes. but we r the comunity which brings the mod a life. IT@S A BLOODY SHAME what they have decided, & people do have a right to be disapointed & angry. If u give with 1 hand & take away with the other, expect the kids to b p**sed. So if some of us regret having to fork out bucks on a franchise which is struggling to please it's community already, expect people to be annoyed that you r expecting them to go out & pay 55 bucks later this year to get software to run the mod after you told us it would be for BF2. & then it will take some time till the mod is released. Be realistic, it will be another year before release, once the team gets its hands on the new game specifics they will redesign & rework piles of stuff. Don't fool us about how quickly the mod will be released please.

I for one & utterly disapointed & angry.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (FSDev| xEROhOUR) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:58:34 +0000

MK4210 wrote:

Listen guys what everyone is missing is the fact that the team has made their decision. Nothing is going to change the direction that they have chosen to take. Everyone must stop voicing their opinions on how the move has been a bad thing on part of the FS team. It is their modification after all, they can do as they please. We should consider ourselves fortunate enough to have them doing a Star Wars mod at all.

some sense at last! thankyou MK4210 you may return to Hangar Bay R982-2 now where your Wookie is awaiting passage to the Dantooine System

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (MK4210) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:03:06 +0000

Listen guys what everyone is missing is the fact that the team has made their decision. Nothing is going to change the direction that they have chosen to take. Everyone must stop voicing their opinions on how the move has been a bad thing on part of the FS team. It is their modification after all, they can do as they please. We should consider ourselves fortunate enough to have them doing a Star Wars mod at all.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (Bewilderbeast) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:40:43 +0000

I agree that 2142 is far better than QW, which I would never even consider buying.

And content wise for star wars mods, 2142 may be twice as good for modding SW as BF2 is.

However, I am very confident that for most people like me, with military and history interests, BF2 and mods are more interesting and fun by far than the generic sci fi of 2142.

So 2142 might be better in content for modding sense, but not in a gameplay sense, or even graphical sense, since BF2 runs the best graphics your computer will anyway (unless you have 2 7900 overclocked graphic cards and like 8 gbs of ram.)

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (ArcAngel227) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:08:14 +0000

Ahem*
What you've learned today class, is that some people will cling to an incorrect idea, even when it defies logic, to prevent themselves havin to admit they where wrong.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (David Gilmour) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:11:19 +0000

AQUILA wrote:

david no offence here but alot of the stuff you are saying makes no sense!
as i have said many times QW is not on the agenda! its untried and untested. everything we have done would more or less be a waste and we would have to start again. the point of that?
also with 2142 it gives us chance to add MORE content! stuff you guys will be more suited with. bf2 is half the game than 2142.
give us some respect david.. we are thinking of the fans more than anything

Enough said, I wish you good luck.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (FSDev| AQUILA) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:34:29 +0000

david no offence here but alot of the stuff you are saying makes no sense!

as i have said many times QW is not on the agenda! its untried and untested. everything we have done would more or less be a waste and we would have to start again. the point of that?

also with 2142 it gives us chance to add MORE content! stuff you guys will be more suited with. bf2 is half the game than 2142.

give us some respect david.. we are thinking of the fans more than anything

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (David Gilmour) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:04:45 +0000

Mr. Wookiee wrote:

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http://www.enemyterritory.com/
that looks sooooo arcady.... it hurts....

Are you kidding me? That is so much better than Battlefield 2142... You're talking about "Arcady", Battlefield 2142 is the typical arcade game. All it is is Futurisitic. You say you want "Sci-Fi"... ET:QW is the game to play! It has everything Battlefield 2142 will have, except a better engine . Better company, will care about their costomers, won't have billions of bugs... and when they release a patch, it won't contain 30 more bugs. Again, this is my opinion, as what you said is your opinion!

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (Mr. Wookiee) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:32:59 +0000

I'm sure this mod will gain at least as many fans as it might lose by going to BF 2142. every time there is a new game there are always new players that have never played the series before. I rememeber when The playable demo for BF2 came out there were so many noobs I got a gold medal almost every time. I don't want to see Tie fighters flying through tunnels that they dont fit in and bouncing off the pavement like in the video below.

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http://www.enemyterritory.com/

that looks sooooo arcady.... it hurts....

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (FSDev| xEROhOUR) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:00:42 +0000

Guys id appreciate it if you kept a little decorum on this thread, yes your entitled to your opinions but we dont really want to keep hearing the same old things again and again.
We get the points being made and our decision is final. We have apologised, there is nothing much more to say on the matter.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (David Gilmour) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:00:41 +0000

Yes, I think your head might be in there just a little too far fuzz ;-).

Please, no offense, but your job at estimates... this mod will be released about 9 months after the release of Battlefield 2142. Quote me on that, please.

Yes, I will 'smurf off'. Excellent way to treat your fans... You all might say I'm a hypocrite and treating you like squeezey pooh... but if you think about it, I'm a good fan or else I wouldn't care so damn much. I warn you, you probably lost a good deal amount of the few fans. I might be but one, either way you should care.

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (sgt. fuzz) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:32:51 +0000

well put un-co, my earlier anger against this descision has been subsided and I have learned to accept that it is truly best for the mod. I realize now that our fanbase wont be hurt too much, when the mod comes out, we will gain more. Other mods are making this descision, and I am all for the switch now. My only worry now is that EA will completely blow 2142. Buuuut, I will buy the game regardless, even if the mod is bad(it wont be). I know I probably haven't been here near as long as others, but I grown an attatchment to this mod and I've never felt so welcome on any forum. Thanks FS mod team for keeping your cool with everyone, keep up the good work. I'm sorry about my earlier griping about the switch. Can't wait for the next update,

Jack

P.S. what happened to Sch??

Re: Pretty sad...

null@example.com (FSDev| General Un-Co) — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:14:26 +0000

"Lie" is a harsh word, we never made any official release dates just ill informed estimates, until you see a release date on the homepage it is just an estimate. If you want to know the truth we have 80% of the content to release the mod. Only problem is its not textured or coded, it seems we never factored that into our original estimates; a huge blunder on our behalf. And with Sch out Lead coder out of action, it slows down the process even more. When we can get more staff in these department the mod will move forward at a more exceptable rate.

What you and many people don't seem to realise is this is a charity we put in the eforts and desire to play the game just as much as you. You have no right to ask anything of us, what we do we do because we want to you don't pay us to make this mod. We have no commitment to it, except our own personal wishes.

By the way yur post sount is 28 approximately triple what you said, plus you have been here longer then most of the team, so I would have thought you would no what you were talking about. To think you're name was on the proposed testers list a month or so ago. I doubt it will ever be there again.

I have said it before and I'll say it one last time. I was one of the few team members who didn't want to move to 2142 but I the meeting where the decision (Timezones). I would have fought tooth and nail not to change engines, but I know why the decision had to be made. The No. 1 complaint about GC was Skimming walkers, 2142 was honestly the only way to truely correct this. The amount of time we have poored into developement of walker code far outwayed the results. Not to mention several other features.

If you no longer want to follow the mod; !@#$ off. Don't flame us for a decision that is in the mods best interests. Especially when several other threads exist already on the same topic.