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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am talking Celsius, thats like 300 F or something.</p><p>And and the Stacker 830 Black doesnt fit any ATX motherboard for some weird reason, might be just mine though :S</p><p>Edit: Was mine, backplate was inserted wrong (by me or the maunal , I guess me <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Dutch_Razor]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-29T20:58:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>FSDev| Dutch_Razor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well fitiing it in won&#039;t be the biggest problem (except in my old pc, im sure it didnt fit in that mATX case) but the thing produces 90 degrees of heat, so an adequate cooling solution in the form of lots of space would be handy for the harddisks/CPU/memory/motherboard <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>you say 90 degrees like its alot <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> my 2 year old comp with an x800pro agp8x has an internal case temp over 100 degrees F playing Bf2 (though that could just be the cpu). <br />anyway I wouldnt go as far as the cooler master RC-830 unless you want a dual/ quad cpu (not core) system, although the thing does have ubsurd cooling capabilities which would be useful for overclocking if you want to go down that path <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[alpha69a]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T23:37:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well fitiing it in won&#039;t be the biggest problem (except in my old pc, im sure it didnt fit in that mATX case) but the thing produces 90 degrees of heat, so an adequate cooling solution in the form of lots of space would be handy for the harddisks/CPU/memory/motherboard <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Dutch_Razor]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T20:55:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Really? Well, I don&#039;t know if the case I&#039;m getting is big enough but I know that the computer that my bro bought from Dell could fit the card in its default case with no problem so I&#039;m hoping any new case that I buy will be able to do so.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nusirilo]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T20:37:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>By the way if you want to fit an X1900XT in I think you need a pretty big case, like the Coolermaster Stacker 830 (compared to that, the x1900 is a floppy lol).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Dutch_Razor]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T18:59:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks for the input guys, but I&#039;ve actually gone to the companys website now (<a href="http://www.lucomputers.com">www.lucomputers.com</a>) and built my own barebones computer that I will probably end up ordering and combining with my brother&#039;s video and sound card (ATI 1900) and then just buy an Nvidia DX10 card whenever they are released and buy a 19 widescreen LCD.</p><p>Here&#039;s the quote for the parts that I want, it&#039;s really reasonable if they actually follow through with it (which I&#039;m imagining they will since it&#039;s a quote).</p><p><a href="http://www.lucomputers.com/aStore/default.asp?selection=system&amp;usersysid=56547371">http://www.lucomputers.com/aStore/defau … d=56547371</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nusirilo]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T14:32:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s a Core 2 Duo...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Dutch_Razor]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T06:04:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Next gen DX10 video cards should run Crysis just fine, that and Crysis will likely release next year (seeing as Vista and DX10 video cards wont be available till Januaryish, which are both required to play&nbsp; Crysis). They already have test beds that run the game just fine and the new cards are supposed to be extremely powerful (and power consuming, look forward to that 1kw power supply).</p><br /><p>Anyway back on topic, I&#039;d be careful of that system your looking at. The posted specs are of a different system than the webpage shown. The website shown is just the companies main page with OTHER computers you could buy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[alpha69a]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T23:16:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If its for crysis then 2.1GHZ is WAAAAAY too little.<br />For that money u might be better buying it from <a href="http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/Default.asp">http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/Default.asp</a> - or building it yourself (best choice).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Proton8]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T21:07:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>FSDev| Dutch_Razor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The first generation DX10 cards will not be as good as the 2nd generation anyway so you&#039;d better just get an X1900XT for the time being.</p><p>Besides all currently announced DX10 games will also run on DX9.</p><p>And the R600 uses 180W +-, the G80 not being much less, that&#039;s quite alot on a year basis.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hmm, good point. Do you think anyone is going to be able to play Crysis at highest settings when it comes out this year? I doubt it since it requires DX10 to run effectively and based on the fact that the developers even said that next-gen systems won&#039;t be able to run it properly. (Crysis is part of the reason for me upgrading my comupter cause dang, that game is sweet <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nusirilo]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T13:33:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Na, I think their saying if hes going to buy new gear, he might as well wait till Dx10 is out. YOu can play an all, but some stuff will be optimized for 10.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T13:29:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This thread confuses me.... big time. Are you guys saying that when DX10 comes out I won&#039;t be able to play anymore? <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TY2D2]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T12:44:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The first generation DX10 cards will not be as good as the 2nd generation anyway so you&#039;d better just get an X1900XT for the time being.</p><p>Besides all currently announced DX10 games will also run on DX9.</p><p>And the R600 uses 180W +-, the G80 not being much less, that&#039;s quite alot on a year basis.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Dutch_Razor]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T06:08:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about Desktop Computer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would hold off on buying any computer right now. My reason is that DirectX 10 hasn&#039;t been built yet, and I don&#039;t know your intentions, but very few video cards come with HDCP support (if you wanted to watch movies in HD and a few first generation HD games). That and Windows Vista is around the corner, too.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[generalandrew]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-19T20:00:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The first one is better because no current videocard is DX10 compatible.</p><p>The problem with the first one is that the motherboard is not SLI/Crossfire compatible, you&#039;ll need the P5W or something with SLI in the name for that.</p><p>I find 1500$ for a bit on the much side, going by that 1 $ = 1€ in computerland, you should at least get an X1900XT , P5W DH and a E6600 for that <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Btw don&#039;t go for a Pentium D, a Core 2 Duo is way better.</p><p>If you have to chose between the two I&#039;d say go for the first, since it&#039;s better to get a very high-end card (X1950XTX), than 2 a bit less high end cards (duao 7900). Of course, if you plan to run two 7950GX2&#039;s in SLI you&#039;ll need an SLI motherboard <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-19T06:12:28Z</updated>
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