Id rather be a communist than a neo-con lol .

Im just a human ( a very good looking one ... but a human all the same )

PS. 

Edited out to not stray off topic

But come on, that steel is EVERYWHERE. They've built a few foward sections of navy ships out of it, their using some in the monument, hell, they even sell coins made out of it down here. Just cause a tad of it went to china to be turned into something else doesn't exactly make it a cover up. Though I do believe their is a cover up over how poorly the goverment reacted to the warnings.

Second, Bandu is a communist SW weirdo, you have to get used to him

I wuv u bandubaby!

Can you actually combat any of these "bullshit" facts? or do you just blindly dismiss them?

There is a mssive movement of people who know that 911 was an inside job. These people do not support THIS War on Terror. If you dont believe the crap the government pulled out of their collective pie for their offical 911 story then you dont believe in THIS war of terror ....... 911 is the whole reason the this 'war' began!

The fact that you are ignorant to the facts doesnt mean they arnt there.

The Polices job is to protect people ... the war on terror isnt that. The war on terror is supposedly about pre-emptive action against a hidden threat. The reality is its an imaginary threat. You should look int the past of the neo cons who run your country . The likes of Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz engineered the whole "Soviet threat" during the Reagon period.
Because the US now had no threat to them, they had to create one ..by distorting , exagerating and downright making up stuff to scare people. If an administration wants real power then their people need to be afraid of something. These people actually said that lack of evidence IS evidence. Read up on the whole Soviet fiasco whereby they said that bacuase the soviets didnt appear to be gearing up to attack the US that meant they were! . They created a fantasy and sold it. They are doing the same here with the 'War on Terror' ... which should be renamed to 'The War of Terror' . 

"I don't know a single american, besides those who have actually betrayed the US and joined the terrorists (and I mean physically. Not by disagreeing with me. Or even by not supporting the war on terror) who would not support police from killing a suicide bomber in LAX, or something similar"

Just because you dont know an American who isnt behind the War of Terror , doesnt mean that there isnt people who see thro it,and dont support it.

So you know terrorists hey?

I do not support the fraud that is the War on Terror .... does that make me ,and the many many many people who know the same, traitors or terrorists?

Im not American , no ... but we were supposedly attacked by Islamic terrorists on 7/7 .

Im not gonna argue about what this particular poll meant by its question. I was just showing that not 100% of people support the 'War on Terror'.

The cover-up of 911 is far more telling. My thread about WTC7 collapsing wasnt a conspiracy theory.

My feeling is that because you outright refuse to even question the official 911 story you'll never understand. Your mind is closed. Theres sooo much info there if you look for it. Im not talkin about Loose Change .. they go on about the Pentagon ..which tbh I wont touch because what happened there is a mystery really.

Zulu , your so sheltered and ignorant..what you say to me means nothing. I guess you should wait a few years and mature abit or somethin..

I already talked about this poll. It basically reads, Are you happy with how goverment dealt with 9/11, as well as do you think the goverment may have known about and not acted on it. Okay, as I said, I would be voting WITH THEM. Yes they knew. Yes they did what they always did. Nothing, or at least nothing of any great importance.

Now right after this poll, Zogby says this poll is asking about the Goverment's complicity in the attack. 'The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy.'

And as you've just made perfectly clear:

They spin a poll asking about how well the Goverment handled stopping the threat (and if the goverment had heard about it) into a poll declaring half of new yorkers believe the US goverment launched the attack.
As for the last poll I'd have voted for it as well. I have NO doubts the goverment has covered up things about the attack.

As for the actual details of the 9/11 conspiracy theory, if I wanted to discuss them I'd have posted in your other thread.

And zulu, no offense, but if your going to join the discussion, especially on my side, then please stop with personal attacks. This is not an arguement, and therefore these comments dont belong. This is a discussion. Respond to what bandu says, don't trash on him for actually saying it.

Oh, come on, look at the question! Even I would have to vote with them! Basically the question is, 'Are you happy with the job the goverment did in preventing 9/11?' Sure there where indications! We had a bunch of CIA an FBI guys going to convince the high ups of the threat. But look at the job the goverment has done against terror in the past! This was no different. Their response to the intel was to stick their heads between their legs and pretend nothing was happening. 9/11 wasn't prevented, how could ANYONE be happy with that?
'Failed to Act' does not mean, carried out the act. It means the pop doesn't believe the goverment did their job to stop this from happening. Neither do I.

com‧plic‧i‧ty  /kəmˈplɪsɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhm-plis-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
the state of being an accomplice; partnership or involvement in wrongdoing: complicity in a crime.

Scope of the Zogby Poll:

"SCOPE: The poll covered five areas of related interest: 1) Iraq - do New Yorkers think that our leaders "deliberately misled" us before the war (51.2% do); 2) the 9/11 Commission - did it answer all the "important questions" (only 36% said yes); 3) the inexplicable and largely unreported collapse of the third WTC skyscraper on 9/11 - what was its number (28% of NYC area residents knew); 4) the question on complicity; and 5) how many wanted a new 9/11 probe. All inquiries about questions, responses and demographics should be directed to Zogby International."

30% think they are mostly LYING ..... hardly just with-holding information!

Whats your excuse for the CNN poll? that about 89% believe that the government took part in a cover-up of 9/11 ? Its no suprise that CNN quickly took the poll down and failed to follow up on it adequately. CNN was expecting that the poll results would be inverted ... and thus squashing 'conspiracy theories' for good. What they got scared them.

Theres plenty of evidence of a cover up aswell. eg. not allowing forensics to inspect the steal of the 3 towers and then shipping it off to china to be melted down. Outright destruction of evidence of the biggest attack on US soil ever!!
Lets just say that the towers did fall due to the steel melting due to fire ( molten metal was found in all 3 basements ..so trying to say that the fires just weakened the steel is outright wrong)  wouldnt we want to know how this happened so that we can make preperations in all steel buildings so that a fire doesnt bring down more buildings ......not to mention Insurance issues with this!

... tho the real reason is Thermite/mate  because normal fires and fuel fires dont reach the melting point of steel.....

Anyway .. heres one of the New York polls :

"Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions...."

Oh, come on, look at the question! Even I would have to vote with them! Basically the question is, 'Are you happy with the job the goverment did in preventing 9/11?' Sure there where indications! We had a bunch of CIA an FBI guys going to convince the high ups of the threat. But look at the job the goverment has done against terror in the past! This was no different. Their response to the intel was to stick their heads between their legs and pretend nothing was happening. 9/11 wasn't prevented, how could ANYONE be happy with that?
'Failed to Act' does not mean, carried out the act. It means the pop doesn't believe the goverment did their job to stop this from happening. Neither do I.

As for the other one, 'Do you believe the Goverment is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but they truth?' Not likely ANYONE would vote for that. That dosn't mean the people believe the goverment think our goverment attacked us. It means they don't think the goverment let us in on the details. When do they?

Polls CAN be rigged but just because they can doesnt mean they all are.

Im not even going to go into elections being legitimate (if you want your vote to be taken in do NOT vote digitally).

Anyway, I was asked for some sources ..so I showed them.

Heres another poll conducted by CNN .... This is legitimate , tho they have pulled the results from their site :

Another Poll asking people on the governments 'Official 911 Story' and the knowledge of the attacks: