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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Safe-Keeper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>How can the rebels be expected to take over the star destroyer?</p></blockquote></div><p>1. They land a huge number of troops themselves.</p><p>2. The ship has been in combat and is not manned by a full crew. This is how the ISD map for GC was explained - the ship was bound for repairs and refitting at a shipyard and carried only a skeleton crew.</p></blockquote></div><p>1. The rebels dont have that many people to spare.<br />2. This is about a star destroyer attaking a rebel base.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>How can the rebels be expected to take over the star destroyer?</p></blockquote></div><p>1. They land a huge number of troops themselves.</p><p>2. The ship has been in combat and is not manned by a full crew. This is how the ISD map for GC was explained - the ship was bound for repairs and refitting at a shipyard and carried only a skeleton crew.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Star Destroyers are INSANELY BIG.&nbsp; Take a look at this - <a href="http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/5/5d/ISDNaboo.jpg">http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images … DNaboo.jpg</a></p><p>However, I do like the idea of this map maybe with something smaller like a Victory Star Destroyer that someone mentioned earlier.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they could just destroy it from the inside.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-14T18:36:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How can the rebels be expected to take over the star destroyer?</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Talon1579 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d like to see a level, a sort of mixture of Titan and Conquest, in which an ISD hovers over a Rebel base. The Imperials would have to capture the Reb base (it contains something special, not worth destroying), and the Rebs would have to capture the ISD.</p><p>Both sides would start with a shield (ISD shield and shield generator like Hoth), which can be destroyed by bombers or cannons (the ISD would have its guns, the Rebs some ion cannons). The guns would be located outside the shields (for the rebs, actually outside, for the Imps, they would stick through the shield like in Titan mode), and can be destroyed be fighters/bombers.</p><p>Once the respective shields are down, both sides can use transports to invade the base/ISD (they could be used as spawnpoints), and they then fight through, taking first the hangar, then turret control room, then command centre/bridge (with other rooms interspersed). The winner is the first one to capture the bridge/command centre (or destroy it, either way will work).</p><br /><p>So, the battle starts with some nice dogfights, with those less confident in flying able to man cannons. It then progresses into escorting and landing transports, then into infantry fights.</p></blockquote></div><p>Problem: Star destroyers have a crew of over 37000 people so I cant realy see that as ignorable.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hmn, then again, the map idea starting with a ground fight to destroy the main shields sounds awesome. Yiou can place the abses both on the ship and a outpost nearby (not to close to the generator. With a number of AA to stop bombers and one or two transport viecles)<br />By creating these huge lands assult to destroy each others shields before attacking the ships.<br />When the shield drop on say the imperial side. You could make weakpoints in the ship so rebels can win the match by hitting weakpoints on the destroyer hovering over the air very high up, therefore a high up battle in the air takes place above the field. The rebels then changing the assult grounds from a huge land battle to also transportation land direct air combat onto of the imperial titan (ships).<br />Is there anywhere a transport might be able to breach and land on any of those cruisers? and like wise with the rebels one</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tortel, a gifted map designer, made such a map for <em>GC</em> back in the day. It featured a static VSD hovering (50 metres or so) low over a rather flat and desolate battlefield. On the planet were several Rebel outposts as well as a city, and the Imperials were to land and capture it all. It was rather splendid, but released too late to ever be played online (<em>GC</em>&#039;s glory days were long since past).</p><p>I had a similar idea where you had the surface of a planet at night, then an opaque 2D surface that looked like a sky from beneath and the planet&#039;s surface from above. The sky-box would be stars so that it&#039;d look right both from the surface and from space. You could fly through the opaque surface, of course, and even fire the ISD&#039;s weapons through it. Only problem is that the ISD&#039;s heavy turbo laser battery is dorsal, so the ship would have to be at a 45-90 degrees horizontal angle so that its starboard or port side was pointing planet-side. </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<em>[Perhaps a bit too frank and picky, sorry]</em><br />With all due respect, I don&#039;t know about this &quot;destroy this and that generator and then this and that blast door and reactor and cooling system and cafeteria and zoo and that-utterly-unimportant-location-that&#039;s-included-just-because-it-was-in-that-one-movie-for-two-minutes and whatever the Heck else to make everything go <strong>BOOM</strong>!&quot; type of map that everyone seem to love these days, though. Fun enough on Hoth to destroy the generator and then take the base, but it gets unnecessarily cumbersome and frankly a bit cliché-ish in the long run. You want something destroyed, you destroy it. You want something captured, you board it and capture it. Plain and simple. Not to mention that if you want something captured, you don&#039;t destroy its reactor. Not only would it leave your prize utterly useless, it&#039;d also make it untouchable for centuries or millenniums due to the catastrophic Chernobyl-style radiation leak that&#039;d follow the destruction.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; <em>[/Perhaps a bit too frank and picky, sorry]</em></p><p>As for Hoth, just make it a regular ground map. The only interaction with space should be the ion cannon randomly firing up in the sky and perhaps some scripted transport/X-Wing departures, just for eye-candy&#039;s sake. Nothing more. Imperial reinforcements should come from the Imperial Drop Zone, not from space. Seeing that there was no fight at the Drop Zone or on the way down, this would make far more sense.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I was thinking that, but VSDs are much less canon than ISDs, and most people don&#039;t know the atmospheric capabilities of an ISD...</p></blockquote></div><p><em>Imperator</em> class Star Destroyers can&#039;t go into a planet&#039;s atmosphere without crashing. You&#039;d have to use <em>Victory</em> Class ships or something even smaller. Heck, the <em>Victories</em> can even land on planets&#039; surfaces!</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Talon1579 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d like to see a level, a sort of mixture of Titan and Conquest, in which an ISD hovers over a Rebel base. The Imperials would have to capture the Reb base (it contains something special, not worth destroying), and the Rebs would have to capture the ISD.</p><p>Both sides would start with a shield (ISD shield and shield generator like Hoth), which can be destroyed by bombers or cannons (the ISD would have its guns, the Rebs some ion cannons). The guns would be located outside the shields (for the rebs, actually outside, for the Imps, they would stick through the shield like in Titan mode), and can be destroyed be fighters/bombers.</p><p>Once the respective shields are down, both sides can use transports to invade the base/ISD (they could be used as spawnpoints), and they then fight through, taking first the hangar, then turret control room, then command centre/bridge (with other rooms interspersed). The winner is the first one to capture the bridge/command centre (or destroy it, either way will work).</p><br /><p>So, the battle starts with some nice dogfights, with those less confident in flying able to man cannons. It then progresses into escorting and landing transports, then into infantry fights.</p></blockquote></div><p>I came up with a similar map plan for a Mon Calamari map a while ago. </p><p>Very rough initial setup</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1623/moncalamariassaultcopygi6.jpg" alt="http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1623/moncalamariassaultcopygi6.jpg" /></span></p><p>perials objectives would be first off.</p><p>1. Grab a Tie figher and head out of the SD</p><p>2. Destroy Shield Gen 1 and 2 to disable the shield which is defensive barrier between you and Power Generator red.</p><p>3. Now , this allows the imps to dock their transport ships onto the docking bays of the Power Generator RED and enter the domed building to destroy the generator. You dont HAVE to dock ..the Power Generator RED would have pylons/aerials that stick up thro the dome ..so this means you CAN disable the RED generator in your TIE fighter...however, it takes longer to destroy ,since you arnt getting at the base of the generator.</p><p>4. The Imperials have prevailed in destroying the Red Generator and now the RED HANGAR&nbsp; shields protecting the main Mon Calamari City Power Plant are disabled and the Imperials can now begin to dock into these hangars and try and make their way to the Reactor .</p><p>5. To get a much easier time of battling thro the power plant corridors, the imps could take care of the GREEN Power Generator and disable the GREEN Hangar shields ... thus getting 4 entrances to the Reactor room.</p><p>6. Once the Reactor is destroyed then the Mon Calamari Cities are Powerless. Imps win </p><p>On the flip side... If the Rebel/Calamaris and Quarrens destroy the Star Destroyer ... they win&nbsp; . Either this , or a time limit could be introduced so the Rebs,Cals and Quarrens just have to hold out against the onslaught for a certain amount of time.</p><br /><p>EDIT:</p><p>After some discussion we thought it may be better to have it an Attack(imps) v Defence (cals/rebs/que) so that the aim for the defenders wasnt to blow up the SD or board it. They could disable parts of it by destroying parts of the hull and damage the imps that way. </p><p>The main aim of the map was to have everyone dogfighting for say 10-15 mins , then an all interior corridor fight (much bigger than the bf2142 titans) for 10-15 mins.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That sounds pretty good. I have to agree that the SD can&#039;t be in space. That would be WAY too high.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the mechanic of the map could work. <br />the idea of this would be a shield around the hoth base would make sure that the at-at&#039;s and the at-st&#039;s cant be dropped right infornt of the base entrance till the shield is down.<br />they would have to be dropped on the outer beyond the shield. now as we all know in starwars you are able to walk through the shield so the walkers will be able to fight inside the shield. how ever aircraft would not be able to fly through it. (you might be able to use the you are leaving the battlefield damage mechanic with this for fighters)<br />then once the shield is down maybe you could stop the at-at&#039;s and at-st&#039;s from spawning in the ISD</p><p>just my 2 cents</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>agreed.. it sounds like a great idea, now i have a good bit of SW knowledge, but i know that in SW Episode 3 [the movie] that the destroyers on Utapau [i cant spell it, it is to hard] but anyway, have the imps. with a ISD or whatever u choose low to the ground, or like in episode 2 dropping ppl off with dang huge wepons in em. and go attack with that 1 base as an uncapp, but the Rebels get more ground defense stuff to even it out, mabye... or at least have some good sniper points, i mean its Hoth, their are bound to be some good sniper bunkers around the map, in the snow.</p><p>my idea is probbly pretty bad but hey, all good ideas put together makes a great idea.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t put the ISD in space - would be too high up for good combat.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A similar idea to this was tossed around on the dev forum once upon a time where the Imps start on the ISD in space (Forget its name) and launch the assualt on Hoth ground base. The main issue was that it allowed the imps to attack anywhere on the map as they choosed. While the rebels were basically tied down by walking/tautauning between CPs. So you wouldn&#039;t get the linear advance seen in the movies. Most players would land the AT-ATs, AT-ST right in from of the main entrance and begin the slaughter. Also the transistion betweeen space and ground may be difficult. But we decided it wasn&#039;t the way we wanted the map to play, so we didn&#039;t really try to hard.</p><p>How ever the sheilded base ida may have some merit, for stoping this huge advantage.</p>]]></content>
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