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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A 3D death star would have to be shrunken down, which&#039;d severely decrease its fun rate. Believe me, I&#039;ve tried (an old <em>X-Wing Alliance</em> project). </p><p>And the Battle of Yavin IV was not around the Death Star in the first place, it was right over its surface in a limited area. </p><p>So in my opinion, making a full 3D object is simply neither neccessary nor a good idea game-play-wise.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Safe-Keeper]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-01T16:09:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It would be cool indeed if we could get a 3D deathstar map... I&#039;m not too big a fan of the trenchrun (because of my poor flying skills <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> ) </p><p>oh, and wow! Pie did something Lore-ish! :-o</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tulkas]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-01T08:21:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s nothing to imply there were not more than one YT-1300 in the galaxy. We only saw one shuttle, too, but I have this feeling there was more than one of those, too:P.</p><p><strong>As for the Death Star:</strong> Two words: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFxqjY7DY0"><em>Galactic</em></a><em> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlob9gPxbJg&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">Conquest</a></em><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" />.</p><p>S-K 1, Filter 0:P</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-01T00:04:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They could have made it work, if they simply set it between episodes 5 and 6. They failed to grasp that the Rebellion barely existed between eps 3 and 4, let alone had the reources to fight on par with the empire.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Talon1579]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-14T10:13:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s face it, we can safely ignore EaW simply because of how much it ignores and contradicts established canon.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Demonic]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-14T07:51:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that&#039;s not true. R-22&#039;s were mentioned quite a few years back before Empire at War was released. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mechag2]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-14T02:41:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mechag2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually, if memory serves me right, the TIE Interceptor didn&#039;t enter Imperial service until just prior to the events of TESB. Many of the key designs were taken from Darth Vader&#039;s TIE Advanced x1 prototype after The Battle of Yavin.</p><p>Another common misconception is that the A-wing was in Alliance service during the events of ANH when in actuality, the A-wing didn&#039;t enter Alliance service until some time after. The A-wing was derived from an experimental starfighter the Alliance was testing during the events of ANH, the R-22 Spearhead, and General Jan Dodonna &amp; Engineer Walex Blissex examined the role of speed at The Battle of Yavin.</p><p>I need to pull out my reference material and refresh my memory on the exact time the A-wing entered service in the Rebellion. What I do remember is that it was around the period of TESB.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually, the R-22 Spearhead was created to explain why the Alliance had A-Wings before ANH in Empire At War. Prior to that there was no a-wing prototype.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Talon1579]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-13T13:50:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Holmes wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>YT-1300 is actually a transport vessel.&nbsp; You can derive that there were many made, considering that the design of the YT series ships continued up until the Yuuzhon Vong (or however you spell it) invaded, and possibly further.&nbsp; For those that ever played the Star Wars game that centered around Dash Rendar (I think that was his name), &quot;Shadows of the Empire,&quot; his ship was a YT series ship, a newer version than the YT-1300 that Han used.&nbsp; Therefore, it can be assumed that YT-1300&#039;s were either outdated or extremely common at the time of the Galactic Civil War.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, your right. lol The YT-1300 is a very old design and is quite common throughout the galaxy. In fact, the Millennium Falcon itself had a very small cameo appearance in ROTS in it&#039;s original form, which was 18 years prior to ANH. The YT-1300 can be modified into countless variations (much like the Alliance&#039;s Y-wing starfighter), but is commonly classified as a light freighter. Dash Rendar&#039;s Outrider was a much newer YT model, a YT-2400 (which was heavily modified as well).</p><p>Speaking of Shadows of the Empire, I LOVE that game. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> Oh, man. I wish LA would update that baby and re-release it. A DS incarnation would be perfect. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> Ah, so many fond memories of sitting in front of my tv and blowing the crap out of Imperial and Black Sun forces. I feel nostalgic. HAS IT BEEN 10 YEARS ALREADY??!!! <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-13T09:49:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if memory serves me right, the TIE Interceptor didn&#039;t enter Imperial service until just prior to the events of TESB. Many of the key designs were taken from Darth Vader&#039;s TIE Advanced x1 prototype after The Battle of Yavin.</p><p>Another common misconception is that the A-wing was in Alliance service during the events of ANH when in actuality, the A-wing didn&#039;t enter Alliance service until some time after. The A-wing was derived from an experimental starfighter the Alliance was testing during the events of ANH, the R-22 Spearhead, and General Jan Dodonna &amp; Engineer Walex Blissex examined the role of speed at The Battle of Yavin.</p><p>I need to pull out my reference material and refresh my memory on the exact time the A-wing entered service in the Rebellion. What I do remember is that it was around the period of TESB.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-13T09:33:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: I know it's big, but...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, not sure this is possible in the engine, but can&#039;t you just make the players very small, and keep the Death Star as normal size? It would seem gigantic, without being big at all <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> Has been done in other games, just can&#039;t remember any of them right now &gt;.&lt;</p><p>EDIT: Half Life 2!!! was used to create maps larger than &quot;possible&quot; <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> (Used in the Empires mod for example)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-08T10:37:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>YT-1300 is actually a transport vessel.&nbsp; You can derive that there were many made, considering that the design of the YT series ships continued up until the Yuuzhon Vong (or however you spell it) invaded, and possibly further.&nbsp; For those that ever played the Star Wars game that centered around Dash Rendar (I think that was his name), &quot;Shadows of the Empire,&quot; his ship was a YT series ship, a newer version than the YT-1300 that Han used.&nbsp; Therefore, it can be assumed that YT-1300&#039;s were either outdated or extremely common at the time of the Galactic Civil War.&nbsp; </p><p>As for Interceptors, I thought I saw some in RotJ... maybe I&#039;m going crazy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Holmes]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-07T21:05:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>kinda like the yt-1300,you could say there was only one in star wars because we only ever saw one.but in reality there was many</p></blockquote></div><p>Its implied that there are multiple YT-1300s. They call it a &quot;pile of junk&quot; suggesting they&#039;ve seen freighters like it before. Han talks of its extra stuff - so we can assume either its one of many or custom built</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-07T15:48:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>exactly.the empire didnt make them any way Sienar Fleet Systems did</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-07T14:22:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They could be somewhere else for all we know, the camera just avoided them <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-07T14:20:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, you just proved me right. If they were not tested, they would not be in the fleet. And logically, the most important units would have received them first - and we have direct G-Canon evidence they didn&#039;t have them at that point.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-07T14:06:12Z</updated>
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