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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fighter Controls]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good point Talon.<br />However the FS team do it, i&#039;m sure it will kick azz</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ells]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-16T09:33:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Heheh, yeah, if you watch the movie &quot;Wings&quot; and &quot;Dambusters&quot; and then watch the dogfights in A New Hope, you&#039;ll be all.....&quot;WAITAMINUTE!!!!&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[THX-1138]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-16T02:59:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Forgot about that. Yes, I suppose they&#039;ll have to behave loosely like World War II fighters - minus their incurable love for stalling or spinning out of control, I suppose <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> .</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-15T21:02:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fighter Controls]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ells wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This was RoK (based on Battlestar Galactica TV show)<br /><a href="http://www.ells228.f9.co.uk/rok/AlphaTest.wmv">http://www.ells228.f9.co.uk/rok/AlphaTest.wmv</a></p><p>The movie shows me messing around, but it had 6 degrees of freedom in flight. It would be cool to have something like this in FS.</p></blockquote></div><p>Star Wars space battles are based (or even ripped) off WW2 dogfights. Lucas has stated that was the intention. The Death Star trench run is based loosely on Dambusters. For that reason, you&#039;ll notice the fighters in Star Wars (especially in ANH) behave a lot like planes - they don&#039;t stop, move sideays or reverse. Naturally they will stop, for gameplay and realism&#039;s sake, but it is unlikely that they will be able to hover up and down, or strafe, like in that video, as that would be uncanon.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Talon1579]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-15T20:59:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That actually looked pretty cool. It made me long even more for a Death Star II tunnel run map, except the tunnels would have to be made far wider.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-15T20:39:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fighter Controls]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This was RoK (based on Battlestar Galactica TV show)<br /><a href="http://www.ells228.f9.co.uk/rok/AlphaTest.wmv">http://www.ells228.f9.co.uk/rok/AlphaTest.wmv</a></p><p>The movie shows me messing around, but it had 6 degrees of freedom in flight. It would be cool to have something like this in FS.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ells]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-15T15:07:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but ILM has always said the shoe is in BoE. And it was found and reported to Insider in Issue 70 of that publication. </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Just after Lando tells Wedge to look out for &quot;three from above&quot; follow Wedge as he targets the TIE Interceptor. A blockade runner and a transport will come into picture as the TIE is destroyed. The next large ship coming into the shot from the upper right corner is what you&#039;re looking for....<br />...it appears as if it is the side and bottom of the tread in extreme close-up, touched up with some weathering effects to help it blend in...</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[THX-1138]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-12T01:52:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agraphafx.com/StarNet/Newstuff/cgi.html">http://www.agraphafx.com/StarNet/Newstuff/cgi.html</a></p><p>Here it says the shoe was in ESB.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-11T23:26:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One of the Mon Cal cruisers is actually the underside of a spinning tennis shoe.</p><p>Back in 85, ILM said that there was so much stuff in the Battle of Endor, that they were able to stick a tennis shoe in, and for years people were searching for this tiny shoe in the huge battle, when actually it&#039;s hiding in plain sight all close up and personal.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-11T22:06:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tennis shoe? I&#039;m intrigued.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-10T07:04:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, actually, I&#039;d like to see the B-Wings back doing more in ROTJ, but only if they weren&#039;t CGI, because I love the fact that the Battle of Endor is the most spectacularly awesome space battle ever and is done entirely with models (and a tennis shoe!)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-10T00:11:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well thats even better <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TY2D2]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-02-10T00:03:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TY2D2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Talon1579 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>mechag2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, now that that&#039;s out of the way, it leaves me with one question left: Will these games work properly with U.S. version PCs, OSs, programs and peripherals? (That should give you a hint on how PC literate I am, lol). I don&#039;t even know if there&#039;s any difference to begin with. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Yes. You&#039;ll probbaly have to set the game to run in Windows 2000 or ME though, if you have XP (just right click on the program and set compatibility.)</p></blockquote></div><p>That is because the games are old though. Don&#039;t go switching all your European games in the future like that hahaha...</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually, a couple weeks ago I had re-installed both X-wing vs. T.I.E. fighter and the Balance of Power campaigns on my PC. Despite having Windows XP Pro, I didn&#039;t have to do anything to get them running properly. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> Needless to say I was really stoked. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p><p>Thanks for all the help, guys. I really appreciate it. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-09T21:44:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Geral Corasjo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>mechag2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>THX-1138 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Some one said something a little while back about Lucas re-re-redoing the movies for the new HD &quot;Saga&quot; releases in a few years, and it&#039;s got me a bit scared. I can&#039;t stop thinking about it.</p><p>Now, I have to say I don&#039;t mind the DVD versions of the movies. There&#039;s like up to two things in each film I didn&#039;t like him changing and that&#039;s it. I really liked what he did.</p><p>But now I can&#039;t get images of him throwing in scenes on Coruscant with the Emperor into ANH, or Alderaan scenes, or other crap, changing the Vader/Obi-Wan duel to feature new CGI versions of the characters so they can flip and crap -- or whatever else he might do.</p><p>It just has me worried, cause I don&#039;t want to see ANH changed any more. I thought the things changed for the SE/DVDs were understandable in most cases, but anything more and it&#039;s just......</p><p>I am afraid.</p><p>But anyways, back to the actual jist of this thread.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can relate to how your feeling. As of right now, it&#039;s just a rumor.</p><p>Personally, I really enjoyed what he&#039;s done with the &#039;97 &amp; &#039;04 updates. Actually, I&#039;m kind of surprised he hasn&#039;t done more. ILM went through a very meticulous and extremely detailed task of cleaning up &amp; fixing continuity errors, bloopers and effects problems as well as re-inserting and re-doing a few scenes the way George originally intended them to be. Yet, there were still a lot of continuity errors, effects problems and bloopers that they didn&#039;t fix. Bizarre. I was hoping they were going to reinsert some fantastic scenes that were cut from the original theatrical versions due to time, money and effects technology constraints now that these are no longer a problem. I do like to keep the original theatrical versions handy for nostalgia purposes, though.</p><p>George has always expressed dissatisfaction with the final theatrical releases of the original trilogy. He had to make an incredible amount of comprimises on every level of the films due to constraints of time, money and technology. It drove him nuts. He wasn&#039;t able to capture the epic scope the way he originally envisioned. Being an obsessive perfectionist myself, I guess I can relate to him as well.</p><p>A few of the many scenes I&#039;m really bummed they never finished and re-inserted, were the scenes with the B-wing in ROTJ.</p><p>Anyway, back on subject...</p></blockquote></div><p>The movies will never be perfect.. I can see George re-releasing new editions every 5 years with tiny changes that really only fanbois like ourselves will notice <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><p>LOL So true.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-09T21:39:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Talon1579 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>mechag2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>TY2D2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Order it, its simple.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, now that that&#039;s out of the way, it leaves me with one question left: Will these games work properly with U.S. version PCs, OSs, programs and peripherals? (That should give you a hint on how PC literate I am, lol). I don&#039;t even know if there&#039;s any difference to begin with. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Yes. You&#039;ll probbaly have to set the game to run in Windows 2000 or ME though, if you have XP (just right click on the program and set compatibility.)</p></blockquote></div><p>That is because the games are old though. Don&#039;t go switching all your European games in the future like that hahaha...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-02-09T13:56:30Z</updated>
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