You may be surprised to know that you get the same effect with the standard rocket launchers;  they all do the same amount of damage, to my knowledge (if there is a difference, it's unnoticable).  The Pilum only differs in the way it operates.

Mmhmmm, mmhmmm.

See, I like the sub-style of shooter 2142 is, but my main beef is with the fact that the gear is laughable.  Hence, I inquire about the functionality of the weapons which'll be present in First Strike.  Looking at Battlefield 2 and 2142 from a more...I guess a word to use would be 'immersed'...perspective..it seems that the world took several steps backwards in the overall quality of almost all of the weaponry.  I'd take an M-16 over any of the crap they give you in 2142.  And the gunships make me weep, I pity them so...

But yeah.  Still eagerly awaiting further developments! 

In response to the PR game play post, I like to play 2 types of game depending on what mood I'm in, which is why most people have multiple mods loaded on their pc.

Realism - to the real world or to a movie, in this case Star Wars and FirstStrike
Arcade - fly or run around shooting the hell out of anything that moves (except for team mates of course lol)

I for one am very impressed with the levelheadidness of the responses from the devs and have a lot of respect in the fact that this mod will be a great one.

Re. modding and comparing to 2142.
As a modder myself, I think I can safely say that each mod team hates the way that bf2/2142 works, plays and is being improved from the manufactured released version.
Most mod teams look to build outside of the restrictions that the manufacturer imposes on us.
As an example, RoK had zero gravity flight for all space maps and 6 degrees of control using keyboard/mouse or joystick. This had never been done in any game released on the battlefield engine (as far as I know). And i'm supremely confident that space maps within FS will be equally as impressive.
The game engine and Python coding are very powerful indeed and what you see in the manuafacturers released versions of the game just scratches the surface of what the game engine can actually do.
There are a lot of mods out there that just 'plug' themsleves on top of 2142, keeping the original hitches, bugs and inaccuract of weapons.
This does not seem to be the case for FS (and others) and therefore comparing against vanilla 2142 is unfair to the mod team.

I look forward to reading more of your well thought our questions/suggestions and the responses from the dev team.

Best regards,
Ells.

Or 1 hit takes down 60% of most vehicles and then if you get killed, another soldier with a different weapon MAY be able to take it down. So if its mostly damaged already you will get it with 1 shot, if its not, it will be much easier for anyother guy to take down if you get killed.

So what's the "community's" view on this?

Anyway, I disagree about 1-hit kills on vehicles, just cause that would be a major bitch, but I see what he's saying. Weak points on things I agree with though - and actually back in the SWBF1 days I got a mod called the "realism mod" or something of that sort, which altered the weapons to do the amount of damage they were supposed to, altered the jetpacks so they had more fuel, but it didn't magically refill itself, and altered the health so that you died more easily (though armoured characters like stormtroopers took more damage than non-armoured). Oh, and it gave the darktrooper and shocktrooper more accurate guns.

But still, I think I agree with a comment made earlier that I managed to look at the site and the forums and come on with almost no questions about the mod. I had a good understanding of what was going on and I have utmost faith in the FS team.

Hopefully they'll finish the mod, unlike every other ubercool mod I ever latched onto which usually never made it past second demo.

The words he uses are too hard to compete with.

FSDev| Bandu wrote:

Also , dont forget , there are other ways in balancing... if you take an ATAT for example ..a weakness that has against other vehicles is its one slow and sluggish mutha.

Indeed, there are other ways.  But again, great caution.  Seems that often the 'other ways' aren't enough.

FSDev| Bandu wrote:

PS. Are you related to Woodrow by any chance?

Do I write like him or something?

The "'other ways'" work pretty well with the 2 tanks in bf2142. The hover tank rules the roost when on an open plane , due to its handling...whereas the tread tank rules the roost in small confined areas.

If it seemed that the tread tank wasnt as good at close quarters as the hover is at open spaces , then you can compenstate by giving the tread tank stronger ammo.

Yes, you do write like woody. Only the patient or skilled skim readers can reply to you both lol.

...Otherwise the fans would get confused.

Understood.

Definitely disagree, but I don't suppose it matters whether or not I agree.

Indeed, there are other ways.  But again, great caution.  Seems that often the 'other ways' aren't enough.

Do I write like him or something?

I present that the reason for which I have 'trouble going over the features list' is almost entirely because of the NDA.  The other potential part would be that it just hasn't been updated in a while.  But, I'm led to believe that your NDA requires that you not update it because the classes aren't yet set in stone.  So, you seem to confuse or present false information without the intent.  But it's all only a matter of satisfying the curiosity, something that isn't so important, so it really doesn't matter I suppose.

Of course, but that doesn't mean you can't state your intents with more clarity and concreteness, if you get my meaning.

Well, going off of 2142, it's generally four or five-ish to the body or two to the head, and given the fact that the nature of the combat is fast-paced, it's almost as if it were one shot.  And of course, it's one to the head with a sniper rifle, two to the body.  I think Battlefield 2 actually did it a lot better with the non-sniper/non-pistol weapons, where one headshot was a kill.  Only makes sense.

So, yes, one shot would be too realistic for infantry, but what you perhaps don't realize is that the weak-points on vehicles are perhaps just as fragile if not more than the weak-points of an infantryman.  All that gasoline and stuff...hit by a rocket-propelled explosive...you get the picture, yeah?

Mmhmmm, mmhmmm.  Is it sad that I'm aware of it? 

...The thing is that although I can and do ask questions clearly and concisely, I often think that I'm not.  Part of that is because, in the past, my meaning has often been misinterpreted or missed completely.  But I often get the feeling that although I've said my meaning, it won't be received.  Hence, lengthy and perhaps unnecessary explanations and presentation of examples wherein I try to break it down Barney-style.

Well, thank you!

FSDev| The_Preacher wrote:

One thing I would say, whilst I appreciate the Eloquence of your Wordsworth Esque and grammitcally correct novels.

As many will tell you, I'm but a simple geordie.

Most of what you said could have been asked in 3 sentences, makeing it easier for fools like myself to decpiher and give you a question.

this is not to say "please stop writing nicely" it's more, If you have a straight question, please ask it, if it needs explained explain it, but don't beat around the bush so I forget what the quesiton was by the time I've finished reading your paragraph.

However after saying that Your posts are some of the better posts on these forums

In fact... I kind of agree with you there

While I'm not implying that I am in any way 'simple' (preposterous notion! ) but it would be a lot easier to read

Yes, I admit it, I'm lazy...

Yep same here straight and to the point...plus i dont like reading fourms for hours on end much rather be gaming then absorbing info into my brain

I have to say tho reading the fourms every days for hours, ive never had to make a topic once for a question for the month or two ive been here because it seems farly straight forward.

One thing I would say, whilst I appreciate the Eloquence of your Wordsworth Esque and grammitcally correct novels.

As many will tell you, I'm but a simple geordie.

Most of what you said could have been asked in 3 sentences, makeing it easier for fools like myself to decpiher and give you a question.

this is not to say "please stop writing nicely" it's more, If you have a straight question, please ask it, if it needs explained explain it, but don't beat around the bush so I forget what the quesiton was by the time I've finished reading your paragraph.

However after saying that Your posts are some of the better posts on these forums

In fact... I kind of agree with you there

While I'm not implying that I am in any way 'simple' (preposterous notion! ), it would be a lot easier to read

Yes, I admit it, I'm lazy...

FSDev| Woodrow wrote:

And dispite what everyone believes, I am not Stevanyss nor is he of any relation to me

Imperial Commander:Who authorised the Cloning ?
Recon Troop Ship Captain TK-833: *FuzzzzFizzzzKrackle.......We are picking up duplocate life forms originating from the Kamino Sector Sir....FuzzzzFizzzzKrackle*
Imperial Commander: Dispatch the Probe Driods to Kamino, immediatly!

hahaha!