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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Episode VII?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree the finale is that sequence&#039;s weak spot, but I don&#039;t mind the rest of it, I guess they kind of go at it like a wrestling tag team, when one gets knocked out or into trouble the other comes in to bail him out and continue the good fight.</p><p>I don&#039;t mind the laser gates, though they&#039;re obviously just a maguffin to service a need in the plot to seperate the two Jedi. The everyday purpose of them is to apparrently prevent arcing energy feedback from the plasma energy reactor core or something.</p><p>I also don&#039;t mind the way <strong>Maul</strong> defeats <strong>Qui-Gon</strong>, it&#039;s not about honour and besting a dueling foe in a fair fight, it&#039;s war. Not to mentiion the fact he&#039;s a <strong>Sith</strong>, since when have they been renowned for fighting fair? In my opinion <strong>Maul</strong> would use a cheap trick or any dirty means to defeat his foe.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Episode VII?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>In my opinion the best prequel duel is still Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul, I can watch that sequence till the cows come home</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s good, but is spoiled by quite a few things.</p><p>The gungan-droid battle and Anakin-in-a-fighter distract the viewer from the fight (on youtube you can see the whole fight in one scene and it works much better). Also, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon never work as a team, but instead fight individually. Qui-Gon consistently runs off without Obi-Wan to engage Maul instead of waiting. What&#039;s the rush, anyway? Maul isn&#039;t going to run until he&#039;s finished his job. Qui-Gon ends up dieing because of this.</p><p>And those laser shield things... ridiculous. What purpose do they serve in normal times? And then Qui-Gon&#039;s death. Instead of out-fighting him properly, Maul simply wacks him in the face with the hilt of his saber.</p><p>And then Maul&#039;s death. Hasn&#039;t he heard of the force? Obi-Wan is hanging by his fingertips, and Maul enver tries to dislodge him. Then he leaps up, where he is exposed in front of Maul for about 2 seconds, and Maul watches while obi cuts him in half. Ridiculous...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Episode VII?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the prequel battle action had a very much &#039;Wouldn&#039;t it be cool if we did this? Or how about if we tried that?&#039; sort of feel about it because that&#039;s pretty much how most of the action sequences came about. Effects and previsualisation people knocking out a vast array of ideas for <strong>Mr. Lucas</strong> to pick and choose from like a buffet, or pick and mix at <strong>Woolworths</strong> <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> . Which is good in a way because it allows the creatives to really give it their all and turn out some really cool and inventive stuff. The downside however is that it comes across feeling all patchy like a pick and mix, and the action doesn&#039;t progress the story forward as much as in the original trilogy because of this. Most things happened in the original trilogy for a reason, not just because they looked cool. Though of course most of it did look cool.</p><p><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (FSDev| TALON)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TALON wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have to agree with all of the above.</p><br /><p>A problem with a lot of the prequel battle scenes was that you just sort of wander through the action and stuff just happens to be going on around you. With the originals you tended to be more focused on a ship or group of ships as they make their way through the battle, you see things more from the pilot&#039;s point of view and these tend to be more engaging, you&#039;re right in the thick of it beside <strong>Luke</strong> as he&#039;s about to shove a couple of torpedoes down the <strong>Empire&#039;s</strong> exhaust port. You&#039;re suffering from motion sickness along with <strong>Lando </strong>as he spins and barrel rolls the <strong>Falcon</strong> through the battle above <strong>Endor</strong>. You&#039;re more emotionally invested in it all.</p></blockquote></div><p>Dont forget the Snowspeeder flight over the show drifts when they were searching for Luke. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> </p><p>I didn&#039;t much appreciate the style of direction in the prequel battle scenes.&nbsp; Too much like the embedded news reporter point of view (especially in Ep II) felt like watching a Bablyon 5 movie rather than Star Wars.&nbsp; It&#039;s funny that the scenes in Ep IV that seemed most &#039;right&#039; were the ones inspired by (and in some cases imitated shot-for-shot from) WW II newsreel films. </p><p>I agree with the other comments too,&nbsp; Light Saber battles were different, although I thought the whole Darth Maul duel was pretty well done,&nbsp; and as said before in many a post, The Grevious &#039;duel&#039; was a wasted opportunity. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>FSDev| Bandu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I also think the original lightsaber dueling and jedi themselves were better . It makes the jedi and the force more mysterious and magical than the over the top choreographed fighting in the prequels.</p></blockquote></div><p>It certainly came across as more graceful and elegant in the original movies, but the lightsaber duel in <strong>ANH</strong> doesn&#039;t even compare on any level with the prequel scraps, or even with the ones in the latter two original trilogy movies. Though I have to admit no lightsaber duel has been as powerful and emotionally gripping as the <strong>Luke</strong> vs <strong>Vader</strong> in <strong>TESB</strong>. And the only one that could have, the <strong>Anakin Obi-Wan</strong> duel, just didn&#039;t cut it. It&#039;s like they were desperately trying to beat <strong>TESB&#039;s</strong> duel, and though technically superior I just found it wanting in the end. I guess it had just been bigged up so much as this was essentially the pivotal point of the saga as a whole, and the major reason for even making the prequels was to get to this point. It just wasn&#039;t powerful enough (though it came damned close), and was trying too hard. In my opinion the best prequel duel is still <strong>Qui-Gon</strong> and <strong>Obi-Wan </strong>vs <strong>Darth Maul</strong>, I can watch that sequence till the cows come home, with <strong>Yoda&#039;s</strong> lightsaber action a close second (you can&#039;t help but smile whenever the little green dude whips out his weapon).</p><p>Ooh err, that came out wrong.</p><p><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" />:lol:</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (FSDev| TALON)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>true.... i do agree about your the prequals are like fast food, but I like the prequals b/c of the fights, i mean if they recreated the last 3, they could do a hummer limo full of great action moments, but the movies should follow the same plot as the origional movies. but i would want to see a 7th movie with a huge fight of the remaining empire ships vs. the rebels and a TON of wookies, i mean let the WOOKIES WIN WON FOR ONCE!!!!!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Major._Spork)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I also think the original lightsaber dueling and jedi themselves were better . It makes the jedi and the force more mysterious and magical than the over the top choreographed fighting in the prequels.</p><p>Basically the prequels are like fast food whilts the originals are a banquet at a fine restaurant <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> </p><p>I guess it goes with the times.</p><p>PS. Dont get me wrong, I do like the prequels and wouldnt say no to more Star Wars movies but just not set after ROTJ .... thatd be like LOTR carrying on after ROTK</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Bandu)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>agree with TALON, the special effects, that was a point I thought about, but I didnt have the energy to write it.. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> Of course they&#039;re better but still.. I feel they&#039;re using too much of it, the charm is lost when EVERYTHING is CG.. Robots and models etc ftw <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (FSDev| Pumbaa)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with all of the above.</p><p><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p><p>Though I do think there are a few more cool sequences in the prequels than <strong>Bandu</strong> gives them credit for. C&#039;mon are you telling me the battle for <strong>Geonosis</strong> didn&#039;t blow you away? And you&#039;ve gotta admit the lightsaber action in the prequels is technically far superior to that of the original trilogy, though they make up for that with the emotion behind the duels in the original.</p><p>I think in general the technical limitations that they had to deal with in the original trilogy forced them to be more creative to pull off the effects that they wanted within the budget, this resulted in much tighter and better concieved sequences in my opinion. The <strong>Star Destroyer</strong> thundering over you head at the opening of <strong>ANH</strong>, the <strong>Death Star</strong> space battles, <strong>Hoth</strong>, the asteroid chase. All these sequences more than hold their own today, and a lot of this has to do with a stronger narrative flow. </p><p>A problem with a lot of the prequel battle scenes was that you just sort of wander through the action and stuff just happens to be going on around you. With the originals you tended to be more focused on a ship or group of ships as they make their way through the battle, you see things more from the pilot&#039;s point of view and these tend to be more engaging, you&#039;re right in the thick of it beside <strong>Luke</strong> as he&#039;s about to shove a couple of torpedoes down the <strong>Empire&#039;s</strong> exhaust port. You&#039;re suffering from motion sickness along with <strong>Lando </strong>as he spins and barrel rolls the <strong>Falcon</strong> through the battle above <strong>Endor</strong>. You&#039;re more emotionally invested in it all.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (FSDev| TALON)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The originals own the new ones.. Cant get enough of the space battle above Endor.. Its amazing.. </p><p>I think it feels like they tried so hard making everything feel like Star Wars in the movies that they overdid themselves and went the entire other direction... Either that or they simply didnt try hard enough.<br /> If u ask me, the new ones dont stand a chance against the originals</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Major._Spork wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>for all ppl who either have TIVO, Direct TV, or get all the movie channels, this weekend&nbsp; [in the US i know, not sure about anywhere else] they have all 6 of the movies in order from 1-6, now i like the 1-3 the best b/c they have so much action and the comp. generated movie seens are really good, now 4 &amp; 6 could have great great space battles if they are beefed up to be like Episode 3 1st sceen in the huge space battle, i mean imagin a crapload of tie fighters getting wasted by x-wings... </p><br /><p>huba da hubbada</p></blockquote></div><p>The thing is eps4-6 had action all the way thro , sporadically. Ep3 was much like this and this is why its a good movie.</p><p>Eps 1 and 2 were like 1h10m of ,to be frank, boring crap then some action. </p><p>The best scene out of all 6 movies was without doubt the Battle of Hoth. The only really great scene from the prequels , imo was the battle between Yoda and Sidious. That was done superbly , from the cowboy-esque taunts to the flying Senate Pods. I also liked the pod racing in ep1 ..but it kinda felt out of place. </p><p>The originals just flowed. The prequels seemed a bunch of set pieces randomly stuck together and &quot;look at these GFX..theyre great ant they?&quot; type stuff.</p><br /><p>As for the space action. The originals win there aswell. The beginning of Ep3 was good, it looked great but I wouldnt really call it an action sequence ..apart from the tiny bit with the Buzz Droids..Anakin and Obi Wan seemed like they were cruising lol . <br />In ep4 you were in the cockpit with Luke etc and in ep6 with Lando. I mean, come on, the Millenium Falcon flying into the Deathstar ,whilst being chased by TIE fighters vs some cartoonish type Buzz Droids ?&nbsp; no contest. </p><p>Id say , dont confuse nice GFX for action.</p><br /><br /><p>Everything about the originals is better ..down to such things as ship design. Ewoks also pwn Gungans <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Bandu)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Aye, Supershadow has been well known to be full of it for some time now.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (FSDev| TALON)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>FSDev| Dragunov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the next movies are normally about the children of Luke and his wife and about the children of Han and Leia <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>When George wrote his story, it was meant for 9 movies, normally</p><p>Greetz</p><p>Dragunov</p></blockquote></div><p>Thats a lie made up by a guy called supershadow. WARNING, everything on this website is a lie and has been discredited by George Lucas himself.<br /><a href="http://www.supershadow.com/">http://www.supershadow.com/</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Talon1579)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok Imma clear things up right now. Lucas is focusing on TV films. Reason being that... and I quote.<br />&quot;$200 million is too much to make movies like Star Wars so I&#039;m going to focus on TV films.&quot; (meaning Star Wars series)<br />But dont get Lucas wrong he is in the works for an Indiana Jones 4. Check it out on <a href="http://www.IMDB.com">www.IMDB.com</a><br />I even heard that Jackie Chan, Jet li, or hopefully Tony Jaa will be in it. Personally I&#039;m hoping for Tony Jaa. Anyway we won&#039;t even see a glimpse of the Star Wars TV show until 2008 or late 2007.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com ([X-Wing]Wedge[Red-2])]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>for all ppl who either have TIVO, Direct TV, or get all the movie channels, this weekend&nbsp; [in the US i know, not sure about anywhere else] they have all 6 of the movies in order from 1-6, now i like the 1-3 the best b/c they have so much action and the comp. generated movie seens are really good, now 4 &amp; 6 could have great great space battles if they are beefed up to be like Episode 3 1st sceen in the huge space battle, i mean imagin a crapload of tie fighters getting wasted by x-wings... </p><br /><p>huba da hubbada</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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