First Strike Forums — MOUSE VIEW

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-11-01T22:26:53Z

That kid ate bread in the morning ---------> Frobid bread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Playing games is normal ... It's just a scapegoat.

sorry for offtopic

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-11-01T22:08:44Z

Stardestroyersarecool wrote:

Venom7 wrote:
Vully wrote:
Just agitated by ignorance.
right.. you cant look past this can you? they are making games TOO real, keep it nice and simple please! no turning your head sh!t and wearing a visor with a screen on it, if you want to use this then use it, but dont go around sayin its the best thing that is happening to the world, coz i wanna know im still in lala land blowing some Chinese guys head off with an M24 Sniper Rife and not telling my brain this is real, you know that kid in Arizona or something that killed all those students with a gun? thats coz he played way too much computer games and eventually thought it was all real.
I have only one thing to say to that. Your an idiot.

have to agree with you there. People shoot people because they want to or because they have mental problems. don't blame the games

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-11-01T20:17:25Z

Venom7 wrote:

Vully wrote:
Just agitated by ignorance.
right.. you cant look past this can you? they are making games TOO real, keep it nice and simple please! no turning your head sh!t and wearing a visor with a screen on it, if you want to use this then use it, but dont go around sayin its the best thing that is happening to the world, coz i wanna know im still in lala land blowing some Chinese guys head off with an M24 Sniper Rife and not telling my brain this is real, you know that kid in Arizona or something that killed all those students with a gun? thats coz he played way too much computer games and eventually thought it was all real.

I have only one thing to say to that. Your an idiot.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-11-01T18:13:09Z

So... to revive this thread, why was mouselook not included in the mod? I sorely miss it in space combat scenarios, where it's very annoying to have to turn your fighter to see what's to the side of you. External views actually don't help as they're only good for seeing what's behind you.

So I say that if it's possible to do so, implement mouselook for all fighters in the game in the next patch. It'll make maneuvering in space so much easier.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-08-02T22:14:06Z

TY2D2 wrote:

I hope you guys do, and I also hope we are locked in cockpit view... Then use mouse look to see around you, just like in hte movies the Xwing pilots couldn't see the TIEs in back of them because of the bulky fuselage behind them...
And also gives us a chance to look at the pretty cockpits that are made

I love that idea! You don't see pilots hovering just above their ion engines in the movies!!

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-31T08:56:56Z

Either way. I think with mouselook it would improve the gaming ability of the player in a vehicle. Nothing against Track IR, but maybe some people prefer old-school gaming instead of turning their heads...I know I do just fine without it because when I'm in 'the zone' my head doesn't move all that much and I still have really good situational awareness. This isn't about other controllers though, it's about why we would want mouselook in FS. I think it'd bring a little of all the BF games to the mod, and improve it for those who like the entire series.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-18T16:01:38Z

Mouse look in FS would be great for both infantry and aircraft. The key element is situational awareness. Just a simple glance left or right can make the difference in a dogfight and can help you judge distances from targets, thus preventing over shooting and going round in circles. Highly annoying and probably my only gripe I have for BF1942 mods. i.e. Eve Of Destruction, Desert Combat. yes these mods had mouse look but it was reversed controls so didn't feel comfortable to use in a heated situation. Galactic Conquest however was fine with the controls naturally forward.

LekLan most people dismiss track IR as they are under the false assumption its awkward and you have to look away from the screen. When in fact it feels very natural and adds a new dimension. I regret trying it out. My friend has one and I played a hefty session with the device. Now at home on my computer, without the thing I feel handicapped. Like losing the mouse and having to use keyboard only. It really is that good guys.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-17T05:25:24Z

You know vully, I hope your not too busy ranting about how great this system is to the world to listen to other peoples opinions. You may not have insulted anyone, but you were sure as heck condescending. This system may be the future, it may give you a huge advantage to gamers everywhere, we all have are agreements and disagreements about it.

I think I would never use it, gaming is perfect the way it is for now, and unless they are going to jump to the holodeck from Star Trek TNG next year, I am not interested in this system. It would not even be compatible with the 2142 gaming engine. So lets just get back on topic and talk about why we want to have Mouse look in FS. I know your going to get offensive from my previous comments, so fire away.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-16T11:01:07Z

Venom what are you babbling about. My point is I was showing you guys this great new addition to the controller market. thats all it is is an extra controller. One that leaves your hands free to shoot while your view is controlled by your head. bringing up a school massacre is a pathetic statement and has no bearing towards track ir. Yes games are becoming more realistic. Just becuase a few nutters out there claim video games did this to them we should penalise the millions of users who enjoy and have no ill effects from games? Give me a break.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-16T06:21:22Z

Vully wrote:

Just agitated by ignorance.

right.. you cant look past this can you? they are making games TOO real, keep it nice and simple please! no turning your head sh!t and wearing a visor with a screen on it, if you want to use this then use it, but dont go around sayin its the best thing that is happening to the world, coz i wanna know im still in lala land blowing some Chinese guys head off with an M24 Sniper Rife and not telling my brain this is real, you know that kid in Arizona or something that killed all those students with a gun? thats coz he played way too much computer games and eventually thought it was all real.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-16T01:13:53Z

Read my post I did not insult anyone. Just agitated by ignorance. Games should support mouse look. it's not as if its a new thing. Tribes 2 had mouse look for vehicles and grunt mode. Why not have the ability to turn your head and scan your left and right as you are moving forward. having a fixed view in the cockpit is silly. especially an Xwing has a huge window so you can look up and slightly behind. to left or right. Would make dogfighting more enjoyable.

Maybe I was wrong to expect the average BF twtich gamer to understand the benefits of such a device.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-15T19:52:16Z

Just because you like some little gizmo doesn't mean you should insult people who criticized it, like its your little baby... Jeez.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-15T19:51:11Z

That looks a bit akward though. You move your head but keep your eyes facing straight. I don't think I would really like it. I think the only way to make it feel properly realistic, and not just goofy is by wearing a virtual reality screen that goes on your face. Id probably end up clipping that thing to a rifle or somthing and configuring it to my aim point controls, now that would be useful, if it would work correctly, but I think it would still be ackward, as then I wouldnt be pointing where Im shooting.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-15T18:29:16Z

you have not a clue about Track IR have you? Did you not watch the demo? Everyone who owns Track IR and has played ArmA, flight sims ect say its revolutionised their playstyle and gives them the advantage. You only have to tilt your head slightly and keep your eyes on the screen. YOU DO NOT LOOK AWAY FROM THE SCREEN. Come on really does this have to be explained? The video explains it all.

The motion on camera makes the tilt feel very natural as well thus adding to the immersion.

Its the future and if you are gonna compete against people that use this feature. You will be at the disadvantage. Next step towards total immersion gaming. Lol my brother was an avid controller freak before I introduced him to BF1942. he couldn't get used to the mouse and keyboard. Now he can't use controllers for FPS games and would never go back to a controller.

Re: MOUSE VIEW

2007-07-15T18:13:56Z

vully that thing is rather pointless.i mean if you wanted to look left.you'l look left and not be able to see anything,because your not looking at the screen.only way they could fix that is put a visor dropping down from the hat to cover the eyes