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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The first<strong> Battlefront</strong> was a good but flawed game, unfinished to say the least, but fun to play, especially if you had like-minded people to play it with. But the presures of releasing it in conjunction with other <strong>Star Wars </strong>products resulted in a game rushed out and unfinshed as stated earlier. It banked too much on the fact it was <strong>Star Wars </strong>and would sell shedloads whether the game was good or not. They patched away at it endlessly, but I don&#039;t think it ever truly reached it&#039;s full potential, and was always a buggy game.</p><p>And then of course they dropped it like a hot potato to release <strong>Battlefront 2</strong>, which I didn&#039;t play for the longest time, and when I did get round to it, I was bored with it almost instantly, such a disapointing game with new features that were done poorly, namely the new space maps, and even the old features weren&#039;t done as well as in the original game, and they left out some of the things that made the original so great. What the hell happened to <strong>Bespin Cloud City</strong>? Possibly everyone&#039;s favorite map from the original game?</p><p><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>My hope is that <strong>First Strike</strong> will be everything that the <strong>Star Wars Battlefront</strong> games should have been. And from what I&#039;ve seen so far once it&#039;s released to the public it will do that and then some.</p><p><img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| TALON]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well, bf2 is okay, bf1 was probably a little bit better.<br />i dont like playing the heroes and i dont like the clonewar periode, people are almost only playing clonewars and i really hate the clonewars but love nothing more than the civil war periode.<br />and even the galactic conquest mod had more details and goodies than any of the bf parts, just the vehicle control in gc kinda sucked.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-23T20:23:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Battlefront I &amp; II sucked. Let&#039;s face it. Theres no sort of online replayability to it. My friend and I played the maps via LAN and once we were done, there really wasn&#039;t much reason to go back... they don&#039;t change, the ai is &#039;fine&#039; but it&#039;s not a real challenge. I felt almost guilty with my high kill counts and low death rate - I die like once or twice a map, usually to my own mistake. Not much to go for online either, it&#039;s all like deja vu.&nbsp; The maps were nice looking, but simple. There was no sort of variation in strategy besides capture the control points. The maps were original, you know basic iconic battles we see in every FPS. Nothing new. Nothing worth going back for.</p><p>The campaign was a &quot;meh&quot;, static maps don&#039;t provide for much fun for that kind of stuff. Capture the points should be for skrimishes between players, not campaigns.. that&#039;s where I should be doing more specific stuff...</p><p>eh.</p><p>I think FS can go farther and that&#039;s why I&#039;m excited about it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Geral Corasjo]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-23T02:21:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Battlefront1 is a pile of incomplete crap and it was so awful that I boycotted Battlefront2. Instead of finishing Battlefront1 they quickly went to work on Battlefront2 and they might as well called up everyone that bought Battlefront1 and said &quot;haha suckers!&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[KingDork]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T19:43:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Um...All though I love Empire at War...I wouldn&#039;t exactly call it a legendary game...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TIEpilot234]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T18:43:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>we arent comparing battlefield to anything, we&#039;re comparing battlefront 1 to battlefront 2.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[arew264]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T17:54:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with you completely about bf2. BF1 was enjoyable. The maps were full of glitches that could be used to cheat (I know, I studied with a clan that specialized in them), but overall, the game was fun and fairly well balanced.<br />When they went to BF2, the space battles were cool, but all other gameplay just seemed to not be fun at all anymore, and the Jedi and lack of any game balance made it all worse.</p><br /><p>What I said applies to bf 1, bf2 was just completely lost.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T17:40:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>stardestroyersarecool you do realize theres an edit option right <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>any way.battlefield and battlefront are 2 completely games.theres no point in even trying to compare them to eachother,just give it up</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T16:40:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh right</p><p>Zelda, Mario and Star Wars Empire at war/forces of corruption.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stardestroyersarecool]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T15:38:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Battlefront doesnt belong in the same galaxy as these games.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stardestroyersarecool]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T15:36:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you wanna talk legend, you wanna talk about.</p><p>Metal gear solid<br />Half life<br />Timesplitters<br />The total War series<br />Age of Empires 2 and its expansion<br />Battlefield series</p><p>And probly more Ive forgotten.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T15:34:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Stop calling it a legend. Even SWBF1 was flawed, but had it&#039;s fun moments. It doesn&#039;t even come close to legend.</p><p>Legend games are:<br />Monkey Island series.<br />Tie Fighter<br />Bioshock<br />Call of Duty</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[<RT> Jimwalker-NL]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T11:19:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You should try it! it&#039;s legend of a game i was just playin it on my ps2 <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EdTaylor]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T10:39:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>arew264 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Okay, I found this project two days ago, and I&#039;ve been reading the forums and want to chime in here.<br />Given their timeframe, Pandemic did very well. I was upset when they went to battlefront II rather than fixing BF 1, but it seems they had more they wanted to add and thought they could make a major release out of it.<br />The gameplay is... okay. Everything mostly works, and its actually pretty fun.</p><p>The major error they made that lead to the current complete lack of popularity is that when the game was released and after, they NEVER released a linux server for either game.<br />That keeps all the major clans from being able to host servers for those games, which basically kills the serverbase and playerbase.<br />If they had a linux server, they might get a decent number of players (but still a mediocre game), but as it is, they just have nothing.</p></blockquote></div><p>You forgot to mention:</p><p>Complete lack of support by Pandemic/LA. <br />Horrible glitches and bugs, throughout all of the maps.<br />Terrible server software. (When using a certain character in your name would allow you to be unkickable)<br />Horrible netcode. <br />Jedi&#039;s (yech)<br />Lore inaccurate to teh point it was annoying. </p><p>And the list goes on. SWBF1 was fun.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T06:55:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: As far from battlefront 2 as possible]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I found this project two days ago, and I&#039;ve been reading the forums and want to chime in here.<br />Given their timeframe, Pandemic did very well. I was upset when they went to battlefront II rather than fixing BF 1, but it seems they had more they wanted to add and thought they could make a major release out of it.<br />The gameplay is... okay. Everything mostly works, and its actually pretty fun.</p><p>The major error they made that lead to the current complete lack of popularity is that when the game was released and after, they NEVER released a linux server for either game.<br />That keeps all the major clans from being able to host servers for those games, which basically kills the serverbase and playerbase.<br />If they had a linux server, they might get a decent number of players (but still a mediocre game), but as it is, they just have nothing.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-08-22T03:23:53Z</updated>
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