What is wrong with SafeKeeper bringing up FH as an example?  It has as much relevance to FS ,and your rants, as any other mod or game , whether that be GC , Jedi Knight etc. or even your GC space story.

stop camparing what i was saying to FH!   FH has nothing to do with it!

AND I dont remeber you on GC you ever even play that?

I can  assure you most of the stuff on that list is from either the movies, or a well known game series such as Jedi Knight Outcast/Acedemy etc, not a weird D&D book

Wow. Turn down the volume a little, pal. And your constructive criticism needs polish. It is probably not your intent, but you sound positively hostile .

Nah, as was said, it's just that they like keeping us waiting. They probably went gold a year ago and decided to hide the disc and see how long we could take the wait. Seriously, though, I think they'll take it gradually. Remember, GC started with only one map, and then worked itself upwards to quite a mod. I'd have prefered the mod to be released already with only next to no content, but that has its drawbacks and so the devs have apparently decided against it. Their call, nothing we can do.

Again, they'll do it gradually. FH is a monster of a mod and works great. And they don't all need to be balanced against each others as they won't all appear at the same time. For example, you didn't see a Zero on the same map as a Polish tankette in FH, did you?

What else is new?

On the contrary, there's lots of good stuff in the Expanded Universe, and more stuff equals more variety. Since the last FH release, I remember Stalingrad as 'one of the maps with the flamethrower'.

FH does this, too, adding all this nonsense that's not in Saving Private Ryan or any other WW II movie. UNWORLDWARISHLY GAMEPLAY!!!

Seriously, though, read one of my previous rants on shoehorning if you want only movie stuff in the game. There were other things in action than just walkers.

Just admit it already, you lost some password and got yourself locked out from it .

oh hamsters, its renwood.

oh hamsters, its renwood.

I expect that not ALL of that is going to be included

Classes and weapons especially.

There are some that have been ditched aswel as some extras added.

A public release is nearing.

I was looking at the "features" section and scrolled down to all the weapons, vehicles and weapons and personal that are "designated for inclusion in the game"

(scroll down to see after features section what I say in this post)
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  So what classes can you expect to play in FirstStrike?

Rebel Classes   Imperial Classes
For the Rebels expect to see the following, please remember that different enviroments will mean differing uniforms and species.  For the Imperials we have drafted the following classes. Again these will change according to enviroment and settings. 
Recon | Sharpshooter
Support | Mon calamari/Officer
Special | Bothan Spy/Wookie   
Assault | Trooper   Recon | Scout Trooper
Support | Officer
Special | Storm Commando/ Dark trooper
Assault | Storm trooper 

  The following Ships have been designated for inclusion into the game. Dependant on scenario.

Rebel Alliance   Galactic Empire 
For the Rebels expect to see the following, please remember that different enviroments will mean differing ships appearing.  For the Imperials a good portion of the Fleet remains ready. Not all Ships have been featured here. 
X-Wing
Y-Wing
A-Wing
B-Wing
E-Wing
Airspeeder/Snowspeeder
Mon Calamari Space Cruiser
Nebulon-B Frigate
Corellian Corvette
Gallofree Medium Transport   Tie Fighter
Tie Bomber
Tie Advanced
Tie Interceptor
Lambda-Class Shuttle
Sentinel-Class Shuttle
Imperial-Class Star Destroyer
Interdictor Cruiser
Lancer Frigate
Carrack Cruiser

  The following Vehicles have been designated for inclusion into the game. Dependant on scenario.

Rebel Alliance   Galactic Empire 
     
Combat Landspeeder
T3-B Heavy Attack Tank
T1-B Hover Tank   Speeder Bike
AT-AT
AT-ST
AT-PT

  The following Weapons have been designated for inclusion into the game. Dependant on scenario and faction.

     
Bacta Cannisters
Biotic Grenades
BlasTech A280 Blaster Rifle
BlasTech DH-17 Blaster Pistol
BlasTech E-17D Blaster Sniper Rifle
BlasTech E-11 Blaster Rifle
BlasTech T-21 Light Repeating Blaster Rifle
BlasTech E-Web Heavy Repeating Blaster
BlasTech SE-14r Light Repeating Blaster Pistol
Concussion Grenades
Cryoban Grenades
Destructive Electro-Magnetic Pulse 2 Gun
Detonation Pack
Disguise Kit
Electrobinoculars
Electrostatic Charge Detonators
Flash-Bang Detonators
Fragmentation Grenades
Fusion Cutter
Golan Arms HH-15 Portable Missile Launcher
Golan Arms CR-1 Blaster Cannon
   Golan Arms FC-1
Glop Grenades
Imperial Heavy Repeater Rifle
Imperial Scout Pistol
Krupx MiniMag Proton Torpedo Launcher
Laser Trip Mines
Merr-Sonn Mark II Blaster Cannon
Merr-Sonn TB-47 Time Bombs
Packered Mortar Gun
Proton Grenades
Rail Charges Launcher
Ryyk Blade
Sawn-Off E-11 Blaster Rifle
Sonic Detonators
Stouker Concussion Rifle
Stun Baton
Targeting Computer
Tenloss Disrupter Sniper Rifle
Thermal Detonators
Wookiee Bowcaster
Verpine Shatter Gun
Vibroknife

The following Droids and handheld devices have been designated for inclusion into the game. Dependant on scenario and faction. 
     
MKIV Sentry Droid
Rebel Datapad
Imperial Datapad
Defibrillator

   Viper Probe Droid
Homing Beacon
FX-7 Medical Droid
Rebel Remote 

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                                                             Ren's Response

Instantly a few things came to mind when i saw all this

1. AahAA! THIS is whats taking so long!  they only want to put a million types of evreything in the game. If the Dev team is waiting until a certain percent of all these planes, personel, weapons are finished OR heaven forbid are waiting untill ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN MADE and work to thier satisfaction, before the FIRST PUBLIC RELEASE!?!?! WE will be waiting for a long time.
But this isnt the bad part....the Bad part is IF and this is just speculation IF they release all this stuff all the things "designated for inclusion in the game" It will be an unholy nightmare trying to playtest/bug fix test and fine tune the gameplay when game comes out with all these things interacting.

The public will allways find things wrong with a game that has to be fixed! Found Something nobody could of thought of until thousands of users could get ahold of something and warp it with thier twisted minds in a way nobody ever thought of.  Thus patches will have to come out to fix these before unseen killer bugs that can ruin a server with 45 people on it for hours on end!

what they have listed "Designated for inclusion in the game" is more then ive seen in any star wars game ive ever played!
Ren<----Super GC Jedi Vet

ive seen all the star wars cartoons, movies, played most the video games.  So i was wondering where the hell did all these weapons come from?  i havent heard of more then half of them i would say, and i would dare even the most obbsessed star wars fan to be able to point out 60% of these weapons by picture of them alone.   what is all this extra stuff from star wars that nobodys ever heard of? o wait i bet its from D&D-ish books where you roll dice while flying in the falcon to see if you hit your target in a turret.  stuff from the movies = better then crappy weapons made up years later by nerds writing source books for some expanded universe crap!

BTW tanks suck! and dont belong in star wars games!   how many tanks do we see in all the 6 movies.....like 2 3?  ones in the movies are not even the stupid T3-B  TANKS = UNSTARWARZY GAMEPLAY!!!

OR i could be wrong and they are not going to release it will all this stuff at one time.
as i said this is just all speculation on my part beacuse i thought these things and all my pent up space killing cannot fully be exspressed on GC anymore.  NOT ENOUGH TARGETS! BWHAHAHAHA!

WHERES MY TARGET RICH ENVIROMENT OF OLD!

Heres one story of long lon ago that comes from the tombs of the old ones, where they speak of a Space Warrior Know to Kick pie and chew bubble gum in the deepest reaches of Space.

Problem was he ran out of bubble gum just after thier first month en route.

What follows is From the Texts of the Old Ones:

AAA yes flying in formation with 9 other ties vs an oncoming Rebel Formation on an intercept corse.  O wait Space Ren isnt in a tie along with his squadern? No!! for today he has sought to be like the Unseen Space-Ninja=Jedi.
Today his weapon of choice is...The Dark black of a imperial escape pod. 
All the pilots  In Space Ren's Formation chose thier targets so not as to all fire at the same one.

Space Ren chose his target well..a Bwing at 11 O clock Low coming head on, along with the rest of the rebel squadren. 

As Space Ren pitches down and descends in the velvety black darkness twards the enemy B-Wing
he thinks to himself "poor rebel bastards"

The 2 space combatants fly twards each other at incredible speeds. 
Space Ren was like so much Swift Space death swooping in the night Like and Escape-Pody Nightmare of destruction.

Space Ren Steeles himself as the cockpit of the incoming B-Wing fills his view more and more.

keepting His trajectory will lead to one thing ....(Over the Radio) "Pod in your Face!"

WHAM! The Escape Pod hits the B wing Directly in the center of the windsheild!
The 2 vhechiles collied with a sound soo loud it can be heard by the squadren of both sides (Yes even in space! Im tellin ya r33l loud!) 

And thats when the the Space Radio chatter picks of in a chours of YAAAS!! and the ever classic WOO!  As they have seen the first kill of the conflict and it was wrought by Space Ren in a Imp Pod vs a Rebel B-Wing!   

Space Ren in his Sturdy Assed Escape Pod (come on the things ment to crashland into planets And on huge ships!) After the impact is spun out of control! Hurtling Into the Darkness Knocked out by the colossal impact.

                                                         WHATS THIS!?!?

                                             Space Ren's PoD Out Of Control! 
                                                           Low on Fule!
                           His squadren is in a desperate Space Battle to the Space Death!
                                             And Hes Not Awake For Any Of It!

                     Find out what happens on the next Midly amusing  Space Aventures
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              SSSSPPPPPAAAAAACCCCCCEEEEE    RRRRRRREEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!