But back slightly on topic, if you use something very similar to the titan, there shouldnt be a great problem. I could see how actually using it against its own team would be difficult, but if thats the case, then just let players be able to board em, and destroy them from the inside.

   1. Capital ships and AT-ATs (which are ground-based capital ships, really) and anything similar shouldn't be usable by the other team. The only exception should be if it's part of the objective of that particular map.

   2. In certain maps such as our current space maps, or lagueriniere's Rakata_Prime - if the map's design is such that it's going to be difficult to get to the enemy fighters and get inside, they may as well be locked.

Otherwise, however... the Battlefield series is all about not leaving your vehicles available for the enemy to take. The Star Wars universe is all about using vehicles with which you're not familiar.  Now, some of these film examples use Jedi, but no one's ever said that "good pilot"="jedi power".

   1. Before the Battle of Yavin, Luke had never flown an X-wing. Yes, the controls were similar to his skyhopper back home, but flying in space would be significantly different.

   2. Lil' Anakin flew the Naboo fighter - his first flight (not hover) vehicle piloting against the Trade Feder... ah, forget that one. I don't like thinking about Ep. 1.

   3. And my favourite example: Ewoks started driving an AT-ST. Granted, Chewbacca took over, but they did start the thing walking. 

Add to these sorts of things happening in the SW universe the fact that many of the Rebels were defectors from the Empire, and you've no doubt got training which would include using enemy equipment. When they had time for training, that is. And much of the Rebel equipment was stolen Imperial stuff, too...

Really, the main reason I posted all that 'slicer class' stuff was a way to compromise between the two viewpoints.  I like stealing enemy vehicles. Taking an enemy AT-ST is fun! That bottom-dropping out of your stomach feeling when you realize an enemy is in one of your side's vehicles is second only to the feeling that you get when you realize you're giving the enemy that same feeling.  

Conversely, while it might give a Rebel that feeling of desperation to see your AT-AT coming toward him, and it gives a similar feeling to you to see the AT-AT stolen and turn on you... The fun level drops off quickly if it happens. The map balance is suddenly screwed up.  The level of confusion/fear/excitement having a rebel AT-ST attacking the Imperial control point is intense, and fun. The much higher level of excitement gives way to disappointment When it's an AT-AT, or a Lancer.

lol...

*thinks back to Call of Duty 2 level in which your fellow soldier hops in a enemy vehicle, while his superior is yelling at him to get going and screams "But the controls are all in German!" before finally figuring out minimally how to start the ignition, accelerate, and very crappily turn, thus leaving it to me to take out the pesky Nazis...*

Not sure what side that supports, just felt like sharing.

Ahh yes, I remember that.

I can imagine it could be done in WWII though, everything (dunno, makes sense to me) was alot more simple and the soliers would prolly just hotwire it lol.
Though this would be a very rare chance to just stumble on an enemy tank, all fueled up and ready to go, in a garage you just attacked.

I think there's a big difference in nicking an AT-AT from right under the enemys nose, and hotwiring a crewless, empty German tank from WWII.

*thinks back to Call of Duty 2 level in which your fellow soldier hops in a enemy vehicle, while his superior is yelling at him to get going and screams "But the controls are all in German!" before finally figuring out minimally how to start the ignition, accelerate, and very crappily turn, thus leaving it to me to take out the pesky Nazis...*

Not sure what side that supports, just felt like sharing.

What would make more sense would be some sort of vehicle specialist commando who replaced the Support class on certain maps, and whose squad managed to get ahold of enough info on enemy vehicles to be able to do some theory-training and figure out how to drive one should it actually fall into Rebel hands. But then again, this'd pretty much defeat the whole purpose of having locked vehicles in the first place, so I'm against the idea, except maybe if the class is limited or a pick-up kit or something - and the developers have made it clear they'll 'never' limit kits .

When it comes down to it, again, locked vehicles, in my opinion (and me and TY are not devs, keep that in mind), are a balance/gameplay feature as much as a realism feature. Gameplay because, among other things, it introduces a tactical perspective different from that faced by infantry around enemy AT-ST walkers, and other vehicles that can be captured. Balance because heavy vehicles pack lots of firepower, so that if one is captured, it turns the tide of the entire battle. It's as if Escape from Hoth (64) should have the Rebels control the Lancer - it'd be impossible for the Imperials to win.

Oh, and never use Rebel Strike or any other Rogue Squadron game as a source for anything. 'Poorly researched' is too mild a word.

...*wonders where that really weird title went O.o*

I know I'm long-winded (long-fingered?) when posting, but I refer you back to post #14 in this very thread for my detailed slicer class suggestions.

Regarding "Infiltrator" or "Spy" class  the problem that I see is that other classes may not possibility to unlock.

I leave here  my idea to solve that taking for example the AT-AT:

Two ways to unlock the AT-AT enemy in different locations.

- Hack console, with the class enginer with r2d2 for example.

- Destroying a panel, all classes must destroy the panel.

Well all classes have the possibility of doing so

S-Guy wrote:

Now for the people who skipped this page or did not see it:

S-Guy wrote:

Now i just came up with an interesting idea: What if there were an "Infiltrator" or "Spy" or class like that, who had silenced weapons, stealth tools, and a special weapon like a datapad or a slicer that could hack into enemy vehicles/ships? It could be available on all maps so anyone could play as it, but to keep it balanced it could have lighter armor than other classes so it would not be invincible. It would be very interesting to see that appear in the game, could probably make it abit more interesting.

Ok so S-Guy you are now encouraging people to go offtopic?

Seriously, come on people... have you EVER used a forum in your entire lives????? EVER????

isnt that going off topic

Now for the people who skipped this page or did not see it:

S-Guy wrote:

Now i just came up with an interesting idea: What if there were an "Infiltrator" or "Spy" or class like that, who had silenced weapons, stealth tools, and a special weapon like a datapad or a slicer that could hack into enemy vehicles/ships? It could be available on all maps so anyone could play as it, but to keep it balanced it could have lighter armor than other classes so it would not be invincible. It would be very interesting to see that appear in the game, could probably make it abit more interesting.

Ok so S-Guy you are now encouraging people to go offtopic?

Seriously, come on people... have you EVER used a forum in your entire lives????? EVER????