First Strike Forums — Another map idea

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-16T19:29:29Z

doesn't really give much freedom though.

can you imagine in 10 years or more, when actual battles will be able to be simulated.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-16T05:44:53Z

Terrorek wrote:

Maybe, as you'd probably have the DSII part of the skybox to one side, you could make the SSD part of the skybox 'floor'. You could have random shots fly up from it like the Ion Cannon does on EfH -- no, you couldn't shoot those guns, but let's be honest: nobody's ever going to take out all the guns on an SSD.

Thats a great idea.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-16T04:28:34Z

AI controlled guns on static cap ships are fine... but they should never re-spawn like they do on Escape from Hoth. This is a fleet battle, and those guns shouldn't re-spawn as much as a cruiser shouldn't re-spawn on Battle o' Talloran.

Maybe, as you'd probably have the DSII part of the skybox to one side, you could make the SSD part of the skybox 'floor'. You could have random shots fly up from it like the Ion Cannon does on EfH -- no, you couldn't shoot those guns, but let's be honest: nobody's ever going to take out all the guns on an SSD.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-15T22:25:59Z

And I think they can make them bigger.... Not totally sure about it though.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-15T20:44:15Z

I seem to recall the devs saying it is possible for a Star Destroyer to move, but that it causes some significant problems when the thing hits something (I can imagine it'll start jumping up and down, for example, which will look really silly).

You could, of course, make it so that every ship only could travel on the x plane, as you said, that is, not change their altitude, so that they couldn't run into the thing, but but I think that'd diminish the fun of them. It would be fun to make hit-and-run attacks on a fully armed, moving Star Destroyer with a group of Corvettes, though, even with the reduced mobility... I admit that.

Have you guy figured out how to work the 4x map size?

Far as I know, both the space maps are 8x8 km already.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-15T19:07:29Z

I don't think static ship implacements will offer an interesting fight, there should be soooome minimum movement for the big ships at least. Maybe isolate movement only on a X-coord plane?

Have you guy figured out how to work the 4x map size?

In anycase.... the first DS battle will probably be the most epic one in FS.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-14T20:35:57Z

I'm working on possibly creating the first piece of this battle for a map. Basically just a massive Cap Ship Battle, but obviously not containing all 34 ISD and the SSD. It will most likely be some number of ISD vs Home One, some Frigates, and Possibly a couple more Mon Cal cruisers. The turrets on the ISDs should be mannable and destroyable and the goal will basically be:

Empire - Destroy certain % of Rebel Fleet
Rebels - Survive for a set time limit without getting pushed back (vary per map size probably)

There are some tweaks coming for space battles that should make this massive cap ship on cap ship assault (Obviously there will be fighters available as well) quite enjoyable.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-14T20:23:43Z

Making a tunnel would be as simple as making a tunnel graphic. No problem there. The problems are how well fighters can handle in such tunnels, especially with them full of debris, and how well this'd play out anyway, gameplay-wise.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-14T02:24:41Z

what if the 2nd unfinished deathstar, was made from buildings that resemble the inside of an unfinished DS.. would that work the same as making a ship itself as far as lag and what not.
that way the map itself would just be starting inside the DS and working to the core.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-13T19:29:02Z

Yeah, most ships will have to be static, with mostly automated turrets.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-13T19:22:15Z

*High Five*

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-12T20:22:51Z

Thanks TY, thats what I thought would probably be easier (tongue in cheek)to implement than a load of huge ships all trying to manouvere with fighters in between.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-12T18:56:40Z

The way I see it realistically happening is just like the OP said.

Static Mon Cals and Star Destroyers, shooting at each other Mannable turrets on them for anti fighter service. Then samller ships can weave in between them in their own battles, with Fighters and Bombers to tie it all in, and a huge Deathstar in the skybox.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-12T17:37:26Z

How about splitting it in several parts:

• Dogfight among lots of Alliance cruisers (early stage of battle).
• Fleet Battle ('engage Star Destroyers at point blank range').
• Destruction of Executor, with Rebels trying to take out vital hardpoints.
• Destruction of Death Star itself (with parts of the Death Star's surface and an intricate tunnel system. Probably either impossible, not good gameplay-wise, or both, though ).

These could easily become very reminiscent of other maps, though, gotta watch out for that.

Re: Another map idea

2007-12-12T17:26:25Z

maybe it should be centred around the executer. perhaps the rebels have to destroy parts of the ship finishing with the shields and control deck,