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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>aaanyway, lessons learned, no harm done, move along theres nothing to see here etc etc</p><p>*Closes thread*</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| JayBiggS]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-05T00:45:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There was no reason to have been hiding so far up in the tree village to begin with, unless you knew that it would intentionally hold up the game until you were killed.&nbsp; On top of that no one was firing at you for a good 10 minutes so it wasn&#039;t as if you had anything else to do other than watch the chatlog.</p><p>But really, do you honestly want to argue with us over it?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Woodrow]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T23:56:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well personnaly I have to say I once got a unfair advantage due to a glitch I didnt know existed on 1 community game. Saw the enemy in advance, didnt kill him while in the static but heck, felt like a bad kill, like I didnt get that warm fuzzy feeling inside - like when you wet your pants, except without the shunning from classmates soon after.<br /> But ya ive dealt with glitchers often in certain games... I hope this mod doesnt turn into a smoldering reck like Soldier Front*..</p><p>*For those who dont know, Soldier Front is a game with massive hacking, gliching and such.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DarkRogue166]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T22:52:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually Woodrow, I didn&#039;t realise my team was dead until near enough my death. Deliberately holding up the game? No, I think you misread the situation on that count, I was far too distracted by all the Rebels trying to kill me to even pay attention to the chat. If I&#039;d been intending to hold up the game then I wouldn&#039;t have been shooting at people, I&#039;d have been hiding somewhere, so please, before you accuse me of &quot;griefing&quot;, I suggest you get your facts straight. </p><p>I won&#039;t be falsely accused of something that I didn&#039;t do, and most certainly did not intend to do, if there was any delay it certainly wasn&#039;t intentional, so please don&#039;t ruin my name on both these boards and the servers simply because of a misunderstanding, thank you very much. I respect what you&#039;ve done to put this mod together, but I&#039;m not going to sit here and have you call me out on what was, for all intensive purposes, a mistake.</p><p>And Oddball, I wasn&#039;t even referring to you, it was a generalisation, so don&#039;t get a bee in your bonnet about nothing. I&#039;d also like to point out, that I was not trashing the mod or anyone here, so there&#039;s no need to tell me how awesome both mod and devs are, I&#039;ve been playing it for a while and know this already.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Zenith]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T22:46:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For the other questions, no landing on top of the Imp outpost is not an exploit at this time.&nbsp; Indeed, you&#039;ll find that just doing that won&#039;t be enough to win you that flag anymore either though, so that&#039;s less of a concern. </p><p>We&#039;d rather you don&#039;t march the AT-ST on top of buildings just because of how silly it looks and the possible CPU collision-calculating lag it could generate</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Woodrow]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T22:30:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As far as it goes, FinalxDeath since you owned up to it here consider this just a warning.&nbsp; That said, your name keeps showing up attached to quite a few exploits, so if we keep hearing you causing trouble we will take measures against you.&nbsp; As &quot;amusing&quot; as you may find your actions, disrupting or destroying this game (which, I should remind everyone, we put over a year of our lives into making for free for you) is never acceptable.&nbsp; Please ensure that we stop seeing your name appear in relation to any exploits or bugs.</p><br /><p>Zenith, you on the other hand are much closer than finalxdeath.&nbsp; You deliberately held up a game on Endor whilst your entire team couldn&#039;t spawn and the map couldn&#039;t change.&nbsp; Your actions were singularly selfish and deliberately griefing towards everyone else in the game.&nbsp; We asked you, then told you, then shouted at you to suicide due to the map-ending bug and you simply ignored everyone else on the server so that you could have your petty attention-seeking minute in the sun.&nbsp; This will be the only warning, do not disrupt the games and damage our mod.</p><br /><p>As I said above, we invested a massive amount of time into building this without charge or benefit.&nbsp; We aren&#039;t paid for this work, we do it out of kindness and generosity alone.&nbsp; But since we can only do this on our spare time, aren&#039;t being paid, and don&#039;t have most of the tools needed to troubleshoot everything it means we can&#039;t find nor fix every problem we encounter.&nbsp; Just because you may find something in the game that is wrong does not give you the right to exploit it.&nbsp; We have to maintain a certain amount of trust that our community will behave properly.&nbsp; We&#039;ve provided a great work for all of you at no cost, the least you can do is show us and it some respect and not try to break things.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| Woodrow]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T22:28:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Obviously exploiting is a no go area, but in regards to being the last one alive and trying to kill a few enemies, what&#039;s so wrong about that?</p></blockquote></div><p>What&#039;s wrong about it is that when the last flag falls, the enemy&#039;s won, so by staying alive you&#039;re delaying the loading of the next round while everyone else on your team sits around very bored, since they&#039;re dead and all. </p><p>Doesn&#039;t matter either way. I just start a map vote whenever this happens and usually everyone votes yes. That, and the new server patch fixed it anyhow.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I&#039;m sick of my team complaining when they get themselves killed, and I don&#039;t rush headlong into the enemy and die, too bad, they have to wait while I play my game.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, stupid n00bs defending the control points instead of skulking about by themselves <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> [ducks and flees]</p><p>(Edit: I know what you meant)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Safe-Keeper]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T22:25:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Zenith, your comment on the pot &amp; kettle is so out of order, I dont spam this forum bitchin&#039; &amp; moaning, It&#039;s first time I ever caught any one doing. Yes, it spoiled my game and I still come back for more FirstStrike is a brill mod, you guy&#039;s can be proud of yourself&#039;s keep it up. Waiting for 1.2 when your ready??? soon, if not sooner.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[oddball-uk]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T21:59:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi,&nbsp; I know these little bugs must be found and sorted, but you tell dev&#039;s about it. As for me I have never used a glitch/bug never looked for one, I just want to play the game and enjoy it; It take&#039;s a big man to say sorry, I thank you for that. Subject closed between us, we squad up kill &#039;em all..lol.. You should have stayed on friday nite fantastic nite&#039;s gaming, you missed out on..Catch you next time, enjoy your gaming...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[oddball-uk]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T21:48:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>didnt woody find a way to global people from there IP from even playing FS?. i&#039;m sure he said so ages ago before FS was even released, that or i&#039;m going insane.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[piewalker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T21:46:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Obviously exploiting is a no go area, but in regards to being the last one alive and trying to kill a few enemies, what&#039;s so wrong about that? I&#039;m sick of my team complaining when they get themselves killed, and I don&#039;t rush headlong into the enemy and die, too bad, they have to wait while I play my game. They shouldn&#039;t have died in the first place. I see this sort of childish complaining time and time again, it seems to be an FPS issue, &quot;I died so that means you should also die! I hate waiting!&quot;, well tough, use your brain instead of running around like an idiot and you might not have died in the first place! What do you honestly expect?</p><p>Anyway, as far as exploits go, Endor seems to have a few, but to be honest I really don&#039;t see people using them on a regular basis. Rather than cry about it, why not report the bug/exploit and then the dev team can fix it, or at least take a closer look at the problem themselves. It&#039;s ironic, but in my experience the people complaining about exploiters the most are usually using it themselves! Talk about pot calling kettle black. <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Zenith]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T20:25:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Irichanu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>FinalxDeath, you really pissed us off&nbsp; when you didnt come out of the rock even when we had lost all flags and everyone else was dead, except you and the other guy.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah sorry,</p><p>I didnt actully know every one else was dead, Once i realized i &quot;Suicided&quot; my self.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FinalxDeath]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T19:59:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>FinalxDeath, you really pissed us off&nbsp; when you didnt come out of the rock even when we had lost all flags and everyone else was dead, except you and the other guy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irichanu]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T19:32:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glitching and Exploiting]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Things that would count would be using known or unknown bugs or glitches to gain a significant advantage over the opposing team.&nbsp; For example, taking an ATST on top of a building, while amusing, will not really be detrimental to gameplay.&nbsp; However, exploiting a bad collision mesh by hiding inside a static object to kill enemies without their knowledge would be considered an exploit.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| RedMonkey999]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T19:29:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Safe-Keeper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To clarify, Imp, does this include things like taking your speeder bike to the roof of the Imperial Outpost on Endor? Does climbing buildings using the AT-ST count?</p></blockquote></div><p>No <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| JayBiggS]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-04T19:16:31Z</updated>
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