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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>RSF Angel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The starfighter pin for example requires you to kill 15 people, easy enough.<br />But then it requires you to WOUND 15 people and let someone else take them out, unless you are getting SL radius bonus points.</p></blockquote></div><p>It may be one of the hardest badges to get, I&#039;ve never really looked in to how many team work points you get in space, though I&#039;m pretty sure before the reset I had that pin. I usually try to work with the cap ships taking out bombers, and leading tie fighters in to their sights to pick them off behind me. If you have a good squad leader who updates the radius with the ships then you got a good chance. </p><p>I&#039;m pretty sure a lot of people now are just joining squads to try to get TW points, a few times I notice people dont listen and refuse to swap kits for the benefit of the team. </p><p>Anyway, what was the original post about? Points? Stat ho&#039;s! lol! <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Twigs]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-18T15:12:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>on the subject of team kills, i think if you walk into a friendly mine it should count against YOUR teamwork points , not the support guy trying to do his job.</p><p>On the subject of voting for vehicles? Only the experts taking vehicles leads to vehicle whoring and doesn&#039;t give others a chance to become proficient at their use.</p><p>same with commanding, squad leading. Every now and then i leave my squad and rejoin it to give someone else a chance to be SL, not because they&#039;re necessarily better, but because people should learn these things.</p><p>And on the pins? 30 pts is a LOT to get. if you can get yor 15 support/heal points and then get 15 points - chances are you aren&#039;t playing right. 15 points implys that you are either:</p><p>Not killing enemy soldiers- just wounding them to get Kill damage assists</p><p>Not trying to win the game- if you manage to get that many capture points, the enemy are bleeding out through some holes in your lines.</p><p>or some combination of the above two.</p><p>The starfighter pin for example requires you to kill 15 people, easy enough.<br />But then it requires you to WOUND 15 people and let someone else take them out, unless you are getting SL radius bonus points.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RSF Angel]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-18T13:56:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hm, personally i think the BF 2142 Vanilla Fieldupgrades are a much better way to promote Teamwork.</p><p>Stats are fine if they are used as tool to vote the commander. I think it would also a good idea to use the same tool for limited classes / vehicles.<br />Take for example the teamkilling for vehicles:<br />If you must apply for this verhicle like for the commander and the vehicle goes to the players with the most badges for this kind of vehicle the most skilled player gets the jet.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alreech]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-18T13:39:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Twigs wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Stardestroyersarecool wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I feel angry just reading that safe.</p></blockquote></div><p>I actually agree with him. If someone doesnt want to go the class needed, then they shouldnt be in the squad. Beware, such actions and comments get you banned from servers though <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Angry at the noob not safe I mean. Also I think that there should be a teamwork requirment of some sort for each badge, being in a squad maybe.</p><p>EDIT* What safe-keeper just said.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stardestroyersarecool]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-09T15:25:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is it a requirement to get badges that you&#039;re in a squad 100% of the time you&#039;re trying for it? If not, it really should be.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Safe-Keeper]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T22:02:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stardestroyersarecool wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I feel angry just reading that safe.</p></blockquote></div><p>I actually agree with him. If someone doesnt want to go the class needed, then they shouldnt be in the squad. Beware, such actions and comments get you banned from servers though <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T22:00:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I feel angry just reading that safe.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Stardestroyersarecool]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T21:31:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t really like the decision, as stats tend to deter from game play no matter how much finesse you invest in their development, but if it leads to more players (which it already may have done), then I feel it&#039;s a somewhat worthy trade-off. Having said that, if I as a Squad Leader tells someone to go a certain class or get a certain weapon and I get &#039;wtf stfu noob i need teh sniper badge lol&#039; as a response that person gets kicked out of my squad ASAP.</p><p>My two credits.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T21:24:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Omabroodje wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>imo the statstracking destoys some teamwork, especially those pins.<br />i know this might not be the right topic for this but with those pins, u are fixated on getting a certain number of points, which then leads to less normal gameplay. even when i&#039;m saying this i&#039;m going to get those pins too because i have the urge to get that. and that makes me a less usefull player on the battlefield when some players really want to play a decent and fun match with lots of competition. (i&#039;m on of those players)<br />but that&#039;s just my opinion x)</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, introducing stats is bound to attract those that love to play for points. But that doesnt make it a bad thing, since the release of the stats tracking files for servers, there is a lot more activity. </p><p>I dont think people will be fixated on a pin to the detriment of the game, to get those points you need to work together and co-ordinate, which helps in the game already. You dont HAVE to play as a team, but if you do you have better success.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T21:07:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>imo the statstracking destoys some teamwork, especially those pins.<br />i know this might not be the right topic for this but with those pins, u are fixated on getting a certain number of points, which then leads to less normal gameplay. even when i&#039;m saying this i&#039;m going to get those pins too because i have the urge to get that. and that makes me a less usefull player on the battlefield when some players really want to play a decent and fun match with lots of competition. (i&#039;m on of those players)<br />but that&#039;s just my opinion x)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Omabroodje]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T21:02:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s correct.&nbsp; So technically, you need 30 Teamwork points in the round as defibing or re-supplying with give you 15, but those 15 don&#039;t count towards the pin.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Imperial]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T14:14:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good question. The way I understand it, you need to defib someone, for example, 15 times <strong>and</strong> make 15 teamwork points in addition to that to get the badge. Someone please correct me if I&#039;m wrong.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T12:29:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually that leads me to my next question, about teamwork points. Some of the pins require 15 specific points and 15 teamwork points. The defib, tech and re-supply badges need points which also seem to be teamwork points according to individual stat pages. So getting 15 defibs would also be 15 teamwork points, correct?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ZedManafonz]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-08T08:47:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Your squad leader success points are kept in your teamwork score.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Imperial]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-07T22:43:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Squad Leader Success points]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stardestroyersarecool wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think they <strong> DO </strong> log the points. But if youve double checked I stand corrected.</p></blockquote></div><p>To be honest, I&#039;m not 100% sure. I&#039;ll make sure I keep proper track of stuff and see what turns up.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-07T21:52:50Z</updated>
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