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Engines, bridge sections, hatches.  The bridge windows themselves are super weak but small, so they would make great targets.  Use common sense on what you think would do the most damage to hit and you'll find that overall they ships will go down faster.

Puting about that in as a quick tip somewhere either in game or in the loading screen would go a long ways....

As I said before there are flaws and gamebalance issues with the maps (the spacemaps especially are broken atm).  they'll be fixed within a few days.

Really. If you are griefing by hiding in one of those cylindrical things or whatever and it makes the map boring for you... stop griefing. Problem solved.

Flying in circles and dying is ineffecent and gets ya killed more...

That I don't care about.  I want people to actualy have to fight in the base in order to take it.  Might as well not even have an interior at this point, its a game of cat and mouse, exept that once the mouse gets away he can beat up the cat at will.

Havent seen it as a tip in the map loading map screen and the Patch Notes didn't give any details.   Does hitting the bridge do more damage?  Or is it the Engines?   Or with the Nebulon B is it the middle section?   We have no clue on the health of the enemy ship so no way to measure how much damage we are doing.

Im just saying, a majority of people play games fully and not surf the web and chat out of game at the same time...

The Deflection towers on DS vary based on map size, and are meant to be taken out by many pilots, bot one lone wolf popping up and down in a hole. If you did that on the 64 player version, you are jsut making it unenjoyable for yourself, so you can blame, yourself.

Really. If you are griefing by hiding in one of those cylindrical things or whatever and it makes the map boring for you... stop griefing. Problem solved.

Oh, and Yavin wasn't designed for 8-10 people anyway. Lots of BF maps are boring with that few players.

I agree with you - you should have to have people near you to deploy a spawn beacon, just like how you need people around you in PR to deploy rally points.

I was the one responsible for writing the new tips, and last time I checked, they did say, perhaps even repeatedly, that cap ships now have weak spots. If they don't, someone will fix it. Thanks for informing us .

Don't put words in my mouth, please. If it's needed, of course I think about where to spawn next. Stop being obnoxious.

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Also, that was then, this is now.   You had mabey 3 different weapons or something in old games and a very simple type of game in general.   Little to no tie ins with other features and dynamics.   Games nowadays have 13-50 weapons each doing something a bit different and interacting with eachother in different ways.

But what about Jedi Knight series? Seriously the manual was tha thing to read. Or for NeverWinter Nights... must read manual. However at NWN there was a manual online. True about that but you HAD to read the manual.

So manual is good

Never read the NWN manual, it had plenty of help and description in game....

And while your surfing the web getting cought up (few web things take 10seconds...) im studying the map and ploting what to do next and get right back into the game....   I also get immersed much better into the game.   I PLAY games fully, not half-heartedly in an window while chating and surfing....

What does lore tell you Ion cannons do?

Maybe a bit of knowledge of the actual universe would help?

Make things stop.   But don't see any noticeable change in the Cap Ships.

Nades are easy to avoid, Turbo Lazers don't have full coverage, There are not automatic defences.   Had someone set up an E-Web and shield up there and it didn't do any good whatso ever.   So inorder to counter one guy on a speeder bike you need people in Turbo Lasers and people tossing nades up there.   One person keeping your whole team buisy.... Lone Wolf > Team Play.... 

I was completing the objective as fast as anyone could, so your saying the doing what your supposed to do in the map is boring?   Sounds like the definition of a bad map then....

IMO not much is more important in a game then making it friendly to noobs.   Bug Fixes the only things its secondary to.   Keeping player PLAYING and the mod alive with more then 7 people on a server a majority of the time.  Its not the communitys responsibility to keep the mod alive, its the devs to make their game enjoyable and understandable to all...

I know whats expected of the maps... it tells you when its loading.   However, ingame it doesn't tell you what any of the weapons do.   Kinda sucks to toss what you think is a smoke grenade down and run over it only to find out its a frag.   Have no clue what any of the droids do or the stuff you toss on the ground.  Don't understand how speederbikes work (flying).   Nothing anoys me more then getting on a bike with someone and them driving on the ground.   

The notes said Hitboxes were put on Capital ships, or something like that...  Could have sworn I could already hit them...   Did it add damage sections, like hitting the engines does more damage then the middle?   If so, wouldn't it be nice to Say this?   Like how in Vanilla they say walkers and Tanks have weak spots where even small arms can damage it.

Expecting people to play in a strange mode unbecoming of the game inorder to fully know how to play your game is also silly....  It won't happen in other words.

Playing in windowed mode gives me access to chat, the Internet, and best of all, the manual while playing. It allows me to Alt-Tab and even Alt-F4 instantaneously out of the game. You can call it silly, but heck, when we're both shot, I'm the one surfing the web while you sit there staring blankly at the "You will respawn in X" countdown .

Also, that was then, this is now.   You had mabey 3 different weapons or something in old games and a very simple type of game in general.   Little to no tie ins with other features and dynamics.   Games nowadays have 13-50 weapons each doing something a bit different and interacting with eachother in different ways.

But what about Jedi Knight series? Seriously the manual was tha thing to read. Or for NeverWinter Nights... must read manual. However at NWN there was a manual online. True about that but you HAD to read the manual.

So manual is good

Maybe a bit of knowledge of the actual universe would help?

If someone gets on the roof, throw a nade, get in the TLs or, *GASP* set up a defense there before they arrive, as I have done on multiple occasions.

The Deflection towers on DS vary based on map size, and are meant to be taken out by many pilots, bot one lone wolf popping up and down in a hole. If you did that on the 64 player version, you are jsut making it unenjoyable for yourself, so you can blame, yourself.

You want ingame voice instructing players what to do? How about you do it? We don't have that kind of time to record over 100 sound bits and then code them to actions ingame. We have a game to make not a tutorial. If the community wants to start putting some tutorials together, that would be great.

What exactly is so complex about our game? The most confusing thing I would have to say is Endor and Bestine push mode. But if you opened your eyes and READ THE OBJECTIVES you would know perfectly well what was expected from the Imperial team.

Never seen anyone in any towers and no clue where enterable ones would be.

Maybe you haven't played the map after after 1.2, then ?

Played it 2 nites ago...  Rebels sat on the roof again... Just killed the officer sitting up there on a E-Web.

Expecting people to play in a strange mode unbecoming of the game inorder to fully know how to play your game is also silly....  It won't happen in other words.

None of those were Online Only.   They also include a concise informative manual out of the game and has the pause feature where everyone stops playing.   I have tried before to tell everyone to stop playing in a FPS for a bit so I can see whats going on.... doesn't work to well

Also, that was then, this is now.   You had mabey 3 different weapons or something in old games and a very simple type of game in general.   Little to no tie ins with other features and dynamics.   Games nowadays have 13-50 weapons each doing something a bit different and interacting with eachother in different ways.   

Ion cannons have little to no visible effect on the target so its rather hard to know if it does anything at all.

1: Space.

Why is space even in this? last time I looked 2142 is a FPS not a flightsim. Points for trying, but this is just a waste of time/resources to get this to work. It's bad... very very bad. I'm not sure if its because the fans of the space part has never played a real flightsim or what... but its lacking most of the main parts of a flightsim.

dude its star wars man, you got have space battles. the only problem i have with it, it seems like the space maps last to long, it feels like one game is an hour long, to many tickets maybe.
i suck at flight maps, but their fun.

2: Balance

Rebel ships/armor/gear is far better then imps in every way... don't even get me started on the reb assault rifle. Reb guns are stronger, more accurate then any of the same imp type weapons. AT20 vs E 11 = joke. Imp sniper rifle? three shots. Reb? always 1-2 shots. anti-tank weapons? 5-10 shots to down one tank?

yeah i guess you're right.

3: Map size.

Most maps are just to large, you get hotspots of action with a 5 min run in the middle. You want the game to be group based but the only way to move units at a semi fast speed is in 2 person armor.. ( less your a reb and you get the APC )

i feel the same, the maps do feel very large unlike the orginal maps. and maybe too many checkpoints?

I had such high hopes for this mod I really did, but I think you guys just put way to much time and energy into parts that really did not need it. Scrap the space junk, downsize the maps and balance out the weapons/kits/factions. Do this and you might get more then two servers running at a time.

1.2 is awesome, 2142 was getting boring and this mod is free and its star wars. there are some problems with it, but i still have a great time playing it.

Never seen anyone in any towers and no clue where enterable ones would be.

Maybe you haven't played the map after after 1.2, then ?

You can. Play the game in windowed mode so you can alt-tab into the wiki. PR is far less intuitive and newbie-friendly than FS and I manage to play it just fine in windowed mode, alt-tabbing in and out.

That's funny, 'cause in the old days there was very little, if any, of the modern hand-holding in games. When I got a new SNES game, or rented one, I'd happily sit in the car on the way home and read the colourful manual in eager anticipation. It was part of the fun. And if there was something in-game you didn't get, you just had to either experiment or pause it for a few secs and, to be frank, RTFM. And there were still loads of people who, you know... PLAYED the games. Today, on the other hand, manuals are short black-and-white pamphlets, reading them is apparently thought to transmute HIV or something judging from the hostility towards the act from today's players, and everything has to be spoon-fed the player in-game.