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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just being curious.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cunningmunki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>BTW, the stats haven&#039;t been updated for a while.&nbsp; Not that I&#039;m regularly checking or anything <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m pretty sure they have naffed up somewhere.&nbsp; Its kind of hard for us to fix at the moment, because they are at Imperials house, and he&#039;s just flew over to Germany to study for a few months <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gwynzer]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-12-28T19:04:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just being curious.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>^^<br />I don&#039;t find points to be the, well, point. Space maps are my favorite. I love escorting larger ships, or just mixing it up in cinematic SW dogfights. I get points for vaporizing enemy fighters and that&#039;s enough for me. Points for towers? Meh. It would be nice but I&#039;m not that concerned with it. I could see it being a bit difficult to score. How many torps did each player slam into the tower before it blew? How many bolts? Does everyone get the destruction point, even if a particular player only hit it with one blaster bolt? This conversion is already (in my opinion) the best Star Wars combat game ever produced. It will only get better. Right now I think we should mostly be focused on getting more people to give it a try. If you like the game, even a little bit, try to get your friends to play. I&#039;m purchasing a discounted 2142 for a friend because he&#039;s down on his luck and I really want him playing along with me that badly. Pimp it. If we all get 5 new players to try it out the game would reach some kind of critical number with the playerbase and be fairly self-sustaining.</p><p>-Tolmodus</p></blockquote></div><p>Like I said, perhaps a subject for another thread <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>BTW, the stats haven&#039;t been updated for a while.&nbsp; Not that I&#039;m regularly checking or anything <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cunningmunki]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-14T20:55:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just being curious.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The space maps are sadly lacking in point scoring opportunities, and have very little incentive to play, other than just for the hell of it, or to kill time waiting for the next infantry map to start.&nbsp; Yes it&#039;s &quot;fun&quot;, but the satisfaction of spending most of a round destroying towers or rescuing transports for no reward&nbsp; whatsoever is starting to wear a little thin.</p><p>^^<br />I don&#039;t find points to be the, well, point. Space maps are my favorite. I love escorting larger ships, or just mixing it up in cinematic SW dogfights. I get points for vaporizing enemy fighters and that&#039;s enough for me. Points for towers? Meh. It would be nice but I&#039;m not that concerned with it. I could see it being a bit difficult to score. How many torps did each player slam into the tower before it blew? How many bolts? Does everyone get the destruction point, even if a particular player only hit it with one blaster bolt? This conversion is already (in my opinion) the best Star Wars combat game ever produced. It will only get better. Right now I think we should mostly be focused on getting more people to give it a try. If you like the game, even a little bit, try to get your friends to play. I&#039;m purchasing a discounted 2142 for a friend because he&#039;s down on his luck and I really want him playing along with me that badly. Pimp it. If we all get 5 new players to try it out the game would reach some kind of critical number with the playerbase and be fairly self-sustaining.</p><p>-Tolmodus</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-11T17:56:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hehe If you pound your chest too much you might have a heart attack..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Crix Madine]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-11T14:12:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Love how people take every opportunity to state how great and awesome they are...</p><p>Well, if it helps boosting some egos: </p><p>I really admire your awesomeness and i highly respect your perfect way of playing! You pwn!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-11T13:39:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Whaat?! Do I hear *cough* ing? Blasphemy! <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irichanu]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-11T13:21:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Irichanu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My problem is that I always want to be the best, and I usually are, but when I am the best fragger, I dont teamplay. Its hard to resist going solo in FS since its so easy with the Trooper kit.</p></blockquote></div><p>Cough*</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-11T10:05:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luke SkyRaper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>points mean squat.<br />I just play the game, and Im glad I dont pay attention to any of that stuff<br />All that matters is if YOUR TEAM WINS.<br />If you pay attention to your &quot;personal stats&quot;, you are not being a team player.<br />&quot;- let me look in the mirror and primp before I go into battle once more ...&quot;</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite> cunningmunki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s the main problem with all the space maps though, you dont get any points for destroying &quot;strategic objects&quot; like towers and guns (and even for destroying the Death Star; nothing!).</p></blockquote></div><p>two very different schools of thought here.</p><p>My feeling on the matter is that stats can show how much you achieved for your team in a given round. If you weren&#039;t killing the enemy or supporting your teammates- what were you doing? (stats don&#039;t show how many team mates jumped on your APMs or crashed their speeders into your tank...)</p><p>Like Irachanu, I get competitive and I have to reign that in sometimes. And often when my team won&#039;t work together or if we&#039;re going to lose the round I just decide to take as many enemies down with me as possible.</p><p>Anyway, the lack of points isn&#039;t my gripe with space maps, but it would be nice to get points rather than martyrdom when you hyperspace a gallo&#039;!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T22:23:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My problem is that I always want to be the best, and I usually are, but when I am the best fragger, I dont teamplay. Its hard to resist going solo in FS since its so easy with the Trooper kit.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irichanu]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T22:11:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>points mean squat.<br />I just play the game, and Im glad I dont pay attention to any of that stuff<br />All that matters is if YOUR TEAM WINS.<br />If you pay attention to your &quot;personal stats&quot;, you are not being a team player.<br />&quot;- let me look in the mirror and primp before I go into battle once more ...&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luke SkyRaper]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T21:32:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Safe-Keeper wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Rebel - Destroy the towers = nothing</p></blockquote></div><p>As far as I know, you do get points for destroying towers. You just don&#039;t see it until the end of the round.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t believe that for a second.&nbsp; I&#039;ve spent a lot of time destroying towers, and have many times ended the round with zilch.</p><p>That&#039;s the main problem with all the space maps though, you dont get any points for destroying &quot;strategic objects&quot; like towers and guns (and even for destroying the Death Star; nothing!).</p><p>The space maps are sadly lacking in point scoring opportunities, and have very little incentive to play, other than just for the hell of it, or to kill time waiting for the next infantry map to start.&nbsp; Yes it&#039;s &quot;fun&quot;, but the satisfaction of spending most of a round destroying towers or rescuing transports for no reward&nbsp; whatsoever is starting to wear a little thin.</p><p>Anyway, that&#039;s perhaps a topic for another thread.&nbsp; I highly doubt anyone is stats padding on this mod, there just aint enough players (yet).</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T21:21:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>herbanator3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Stardestroyersarecool wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>An example of stat padding would be one guy letting another guy get however many headshots he needs for a badge and then he would let the other guy do the same.</p></blockquote></div><p>sometimes they throw a medic in there reviving the guy getting shot too</p></blockquote></div><p>Wow.&nbsp; Sounds pretty dull!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cunningmunki]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T21:12:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Rebel - Destroy the towers = nothing</p></blockquote></div><p>As far as I know, you do get points for destroying towers. You just don&#039;t see it until the end of the round.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Safe-Keeper]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T20:56:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>High stats normally equate to high hours played. Often a certain map will afford any player of a particular side more points purely by the objectives laid down on that map. <br />Yavin - Imperial- Turbo laser = Gold, requiring no skill what so ever<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Rebel - Destroy the towers = nothing other than destroying your k/D ratio<br />Any space map jump into the gun positions on a cruiser and your score will rocket. <br />Rhen Var Research play as Imperial you will stick out like a sore thumb against the snow so Rebels often have the advantage score wise.<br />Imperial convoy jump into a Y wing or just reapeatedly press suicide, It&#039;ll have the same end result<br />I appreciate that a lot of work goes into balancing the maps win wise. This is not true score wise and this makes the whole ranking system a farce. <br />I play FS because its enjoyable, I really don&#039;t care who&#039;s number 1. On an evenly balanced map those with skill will always outshine those with high rank</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Athlon]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T20:40:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>IMO badges shouldnt give stat points. It reduces teamplay because FS is designed so that you will constantly change your kit, not like PR where you stay with one kit the whole round. I find it very hard to get badges and teamplay at the same time. And FS is designed to be teamwork game, not arcade crap.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-06-10T20:12:05Z</updated>
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