]]>Even without any repair points, everybody is still in the same position. It's also obvious that this is not a widespread issue. That's all I meant by saying it was insignificant.
I had around 70-75 repair points when I discovered the glitch, and I've probably earned about 25 'proper' points since reporting it. I was open and honest about reporting what I'd found and done, and I half expected being stripped of the Repair Pin. That's fine by me.
Imperial has asked for it to stop, and it already has as far as I'm concerned.
]]>None of the top-ranked players in First Strike have actually got there by exploiting this glitch.
Definatly not true. I've seen some of the "top-ranked" players doing this. I always thought they were just messing about, shooting then repairing their droid. I was not accusing you earlier, John, if that's how it looked.
]]>RabidJohn wrote:True, but this is a comparatively insignificant exploit when compared with, say, the early version Titan guns/ammo box glitch in vanilla that saw some players getting 100s of ammo points in a round.
None of the top-ranked players in First Strike have actually got there by exploiting this glitch.
I beg to differ, thats why this post was made.
hmmm, how many players did use it then to get to the top? I understand you don't wanna go publicy call name's, but a number?
]]>True, but this is a comparatively insignificant exploit when compared with, say, the early version Titan guns/ammo box glitch in vanilla that saw some players getting 100s of ammo points in a round.
None of the top-ranked players in First Strike have actually got there by exploiting this glitch.
I beg to differ, thats why this post was made.
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]]>Nobody ever accused you of anything.
It doesn't change the fact that stats do cause some players who put alot of stock in leaderboards to exploit in an attempt to reach the top...in any game that records stats.
]]>Thats the thing about stats. In the neverending grind to be the "best" people resort to lameness like this...
I am where I am on the leaderboard simply because of the time I've spent playing, and I've spent so much time playing First Strike because I bloody well love it!
Stats are nothing more than a record of what a player has done in the game. I'm under no illusions about being the "best"; there are several players who kick my arse just about every time we encounter each other.
If FS was ranked by K/D ratio, W/L ratio or SPM, the leaderboard would be completely different. If you found a way to include the Squad Leader Success and Squad Order Bonus points, it'd look very different again.
]]>I had no clue that this got you points. Maybe thats why i see so many (including top ranking players) sitting about with the support kit, with their droid out on a map like Bestine or Mos Espa.
The support troops will run the droids to give ammo, it doesn't actually repair anything itself. Many people spawn as support to lay prox mines down to defend flags, or repair the ATST on those maps. In fact its one of the -{RT}- squad requisits 
Maybe thats why i see so many (including top ranking players) sitting about with the support kit, with their droid out on a map like Bestine or Mos Espa.
Thats the thing about stats. In the neverending grind to be the "best" people resort to lameness like this.
In the end though I think that stats are good for the mod because, for better or worse, there is a segment of the player population that really get their rocks off on them.
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But hey, with good admins an the battle recorder (and an activated spectator mode so other players can make screen shots...) such bug using is only a small problem.
About the engine limitations...
The grass is always greener on the other side... other engines may have other limitations that are also frustrating
E.G. we can't do destroyable turrets like the titans because we don't have a ship interior for the players to do something else in. If you blew up a turret on a capship then the player would be forced to just sit there looking at a screen of TV snow the rest of the game.
Hey, in this special case suicide (and respawning) is a solution
Wierd idea:
O.k., walking around in a moving ship is a no no because the TITAN-Lag.
But whats about Stations without walking around ?
The Players spwans in a station like the gunners console.
Hey can switch between the stations with the F1 to F8 Keys like in every other Battlefield Game.
At the gunners console he can switch between two "Weapons":
First Weapon the gun, switching to gun sight (maybe by pressing the right mouse button).
Second Weapon a repair function that repairs the gun.
Similarly we have had trouble convincing the game to let us do destroyable radar units (using the regular commands it straight doesn't work and trying to jury-rig bots to shoot constant UAV from a vehicle has not yielded great success thus far).
Destroyable radar units for ships ?
Wierd idea: Ships able to launch UAV Droids that follow the ship (maybe as part of the ship ?) if the droid is destroyed, the ship must rearm it at a gallowfree or bulk freighter.
]]>Shooting it to repair it and get the points is exploiting this though and anyone doing this should be dealt with accordingly.
Actually, shooting your own droid gives you minus points for team vehicle damage.
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