Midichlorians, thats what.

Thank you. >_<

FSDev| TALON wrote:

That is kinda exactly what I just said mate, that the term Sith was around for ages (pretty much since Star Wars first came out), just not actually mentioned in the movies themselves.

Also the Mandalorians are not the Clone Troopers of the prequel trilogy, they are the warrior people that Jango Fett was a member of. He, and later his clone/son Boba Fett wear the armour of a Mandalorian Supercommando. Lore from back in the days of the original trilogy used to state that these guys were fierce warriors during the time of the Clone Wars, though it never mentioned who's side they were on, but it gave the impression that there was a whole army of the guys. So all this kinda changed once the prequels came out and the Mandalorians as a fighting force were never seen which was a shame, I was looking forward to seeing them facing up against Clone/Stormtroopers or Jedi, that would definitely have been something to see.

Perhaps with the new CG animated CLONE WARS debuting in theatres this month, and later on SPIKE TV cable and Cartoon NETWORK cable channels, Lucas will fulfill the story of the Mandalorians , the exodus of the Tatooine slaves by Anakin as foreshadowed in Ep1 TPM , Lucas has kept the Clone Wars a sacred cow only left for his own intrepretations for years until recently.
Im hoping the Jedi females such as Ayala Securaa and Shakk Tii get a good backstory , as will the Clone officers , Bly, Gree, ect. Maybe they will weave the Black Sun into the time of the Clone Wars , time will tell.

It's about time we had a Sith turn his/her back on the darkside and join the Jedi Council and give them less action-hero/comicbook persona's.  I remember watching A New Hope when I was young and getting a sense, from Obi Wan, that Jedi were quasi wizards with a bit of mystery about them. The prequels have kinda killed that aura so far.

That is kinda exactly what I just said mate, that the term Sith was around for ages (pretty much since Star Wars first came out), just not actually mentioned in the movies themselves.

Also the Mandalorians are not the Clone Troopers of the prequel trilogy, they are the warrior people that Jango Fett was a member of. He, and later his clone/son Boba Fett wear the armour of a Mandalorian Supercommando. Lore from back in the days of the original trilogy used to state that these guys were fierce warriors during the time of the Clone Wars, though it never mentioned who's side they were on, but it gave the impression that there was a whole army of the guys. So all this kinda changed once the prequels came out and the Mandalorians as a fighting force were never seen which was a shame, I was looking forward to seeing them facing up against Clone/Stormtroopers or Jedi, that would definitely have been something to see.

Perhaps with the new CG animated CLONE WARS debuting in theatres this month, and later on SPIKE TV cable and Cartoon NETWORK cable channels, Lucas will fulfill the story of the Mandalorians , the exodus of the Tatooine slaves by Anakin as foreshadowed in Ep1 TPM , Lucas has kept the Clone Wars a sacred cow only left for his own intrepretations for years until recently.
Im hoping the Jedi females such as Ayala Securaa and Shakk Tii get a good backstory , as will the Clone officers , Bly, Gree, ect. Maybe they will weave the Black Sun into the time of the Clone Wars , time will tell.

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Slimshiesty wrote:

Adding young Anakin to the return of the jedi blue ghost scenes with old ben and yoda.
that kinda ticked me off..and they were using the force.. so my conclusion.

I know, from Lucas' POV, it was to tie in the prequels with the OT, but it makes sense in a way since that was how Anakin was before turning into Vader.

That could be one point of view, and a valid reason for the change, but it does seem to go against the whole idea of Vader/Anakin's redemption and return to the light. The whole point is that at the end he has turned back to the light side of the Force. Therefore his Force ghost should really be the older Anakin to reflect the fact that the older Anakin had been redeemed, rather than turning back the clock 20 years to when he was last a good guy it should be celebrating the fact that he was now once again a good guy. Of course this is just my opinion and the argument easily goes either way on this subject.

Problem there tho is that the older Anakin..... had no freaking arms or legs!

Also the Mandalorians are not the Clone Troopers of the prequel trilogy, they are the warrior people that Jango Fett was a member of. He, and later his clone/son Boba Fett wear the armour of a Mandalorian Supercommando. Lore from back in the days of the original trilogy used to state that these guys were fierce warriors during the time of the Clone Wars, though it never mentioned who's side they were on, but it gave the impression that there was a whole army of the guys. So all this kinda changed once the prequels came out and the Mandalorians as a fighting force were never seen which was a shame, I was looking forward to seeing them facing up against Clone/Stormtroopers or Jedi, that would definitely have been something to see.

Yeah, Sith are never mentioned in the original movies themselves, I know, but can't remember off hand where it was first mentioned, but it was way before the prequels, it may have been in a novelisation or something, I remember it was from a canon source not EU.

Ah come off it, you folks might be too young or long -in the tooth , but Vader was called the Dark Lord of the Sith , since the earliest storybook read-along novels , its on the early TOPPS Trading cards , it's on the old record LP, and it's in the early TIME magazine articles , it was even part of the narrated records THE Story of Star Wars .   Lucas even spilled the beans about FETT and the Mandalorians, the Mustafarr lava duel ,  in the EMpire Strikes Back cover story for TIME magazine back when that movie came out.
I had been waiting for Revenge of the Sith for over 15 years knowing for years  that Anakin had dueled with Obi Wan over a lava pit or volcanoe , and the resulting wounds created Darth Vader .  Lucas was more talkative to TIME and Star Log magazines in the 80's , and he revealed things such as Boba Fett is part of a warrior clan called 'mandalorians" Mandalorian Shocktroopers make Stormtroopers look like crossing guards , now obviously he made the Clone Army from his concept of the mandalorians , and Fett was technically one of them . the novels and games have borrrowed and re-intrepreted it, as has the new Trilogy.

They actually have a chart at Lucasfilm Licensing depicting the various levels of canon, I have it somewhere so I'll have to dig it out, this depicts exactly how lore accurate or not the material is.

And all the novels have not been personally approved by George Lucas, that is what Lucasfilm Licensing is for. Do you know how many Star Wars novels are out there? That said he does obviously take an interest in this stuff as evidenced by the inclusion of so much EU material in the Prequels and OT Special Editions, the Outrider (Dash Rendar's ship from Shadows of the Empire) appearing in the skies above Mos Eisley in A New Hope, Aylaa Secura appearing in the Prequels, and her Master Quinlan Vos mentioned by name in Revenge of the Sith.

a) 18 y/o on a trip to Anchorhead; stumbled into the wrong type of bar

b) Obi-Wan's hutt extended action scene involving unignited lightsaber

c) The much-hushed un-PC Chewbacca bunk bed innocent on the way to Alderaan

I like Kyle Katarn! He's my kind of Jedi:
-Sensitive to the force and able to use a lightsaber – basic Jedi requirements.
-No brainwashing from an early age at an academy so he thinks for himself – as evidenced by his training as an officer candidate at the Imperial Academy and defection to the Rebel Alliance.
-Tempted by the Dark Side (aren't we all), but ultimately able to resist it
-And a fair decent bird in tow (who he kisses in the Jedi academy!).

Kyle Katarn has always been my favorite character in the Star Wars series, I just need to scour the universe trying to find the random books where he shows up.

"The imperials think I'm somehow immortal, but I just have a good supply of power cells."

I actually read Lucas's original novelisation of 'A New Hope' before I saw the film! I'm aware of the writing of the back story, of the original idea about Mace Windu, about Darth Valorum, and of the potential Episodes VII-IX and Jacen Solo. The story evolved forwards and then backwards – it's a difficult way to do things and maintain consistency. It's still a good yarn, though.

I like Kyle Katarn! He's my kind of Jedi:
-Sensitive to the force and able to use a lightsaber – basic Jedi requirements.
-No brainwashing from an early age at an academy so he thinks for himself – as evidenced by his training as an officer candidate at the Imperial Academy and defection to the Rebel Alliance.
-Tempted by the Dark Side (aren't we all), but ultimately able to resist it
-And a fair decent bird in tow (who he kisses in the Jedi academy!).

I'd say that's much better role model than the manipulative Obi-Wan! When he said: "Your father wanted you to have this" what he meant was: "I left your father for dead in a volcano, just after I chopped his arms and legs off and watched him catch fire. I picked this up on my way out"! That "more civilised age" he talks about... that's the one with the utterly corruptible Senate that was wide open to manipulation by the Sith, yeah?

That's a thing: Sith. When did that term first appear? I don't recall any mention of Sith in the OT. The first time I remember seeing it is in the title of the expansion for Dark Forces II 'Mysteries of the Sith'. The bad guys in the original game (Jerec, et al) were referred to as 'Dark Jedi'... Is this something that made it into the movies from the game, or were the game devs aware of what was coming up in Episodes I-III? There was also a purple lightsaber in MotS (Mara Jade's) several years before Sam Jackson is supposed to have asked for one...