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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gwynzer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I didn&#039;t see anyone around to maintain the CG yesterday after the server crashed... instead we started back at the start of the rotation, back on the maps designed for small playercounts.&nbsp; Alot of people actually left because of that, including me.&nbsp; Thinking back, I didn&#039;t even see the CG settings get turned off yesterday, I had to wait around for hours for Omen to come online and switch them back to normal.&nbsp; I hope we aren&#039;t getting the same maplist as yesterday, it gets boring with two of the same rotation in a row!</p></blockquote></div><p>Just wanted to add: Sorry about this, won&#039;t happen again.&nbsp; My computer got completly screwed over Saturday afternoon and I&#039;ve had to format (just finishing up now) so I was unable to sort out the server as planned.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Imperial]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T15:12:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well I sure am glad we&#039;re all done with that.&nbsp; Super thread close!</p><p>*mutters about being gone for a couple days and everything going to hell*</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FSDev| RedMonkey999]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T10:17:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Athlon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bandu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Prefer this one myself&nbsp; <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA</a> <br />The video seems to sum things up, especially the last 20 seconds <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>WOOOT NIXON!!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Thomas12255]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T10:16:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Regarding the Arguments.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Bandu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Prefer this one myself&nbsp; <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA</a> <br />The video seems to sum things up, especially the last 20 seconds <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Athlon]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T10:06:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>End of Conflict, Daddy-o. Though one thing I would like to point out is that FS IS NOT 2142. Don&#039;t compare me to you in 2142, I&#039;ve hardly played, even then, not as commander often.&nbsp; Maybe I could compare my stats to Squad Leading (See Officer class) in FS to you, I didn&#039;t, no point because you don&#039;t go SL in FS... </p><p>Commanding in FS is NOT like commanding in 2142. The same system, but has different effects.&nbsp; Small team, competent Squad Leaders? Join a squad, let them get a beacon - it HELPS the team. They know how to squad lead just like you know how to command, and a team of one squad doesnt need a commander AND a squad leader.</p><p>&lt;/end rant&gt;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gwynzer]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T06:57:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Safe-Keeper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;This video is not available in your country.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>Fail.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TY2D2]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T04:51:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Safe-Keeper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;This video is not available in your country.&quot;</p><p>Smooth, Bandu.</p></blockquote></div><p>Your country being Faithland? <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bandu]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T04:12:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;This video is not available in your country.&quot;</p><p>Smooth, Bandu.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T04:09:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bandu]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T04:01:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Regarding the Arguments.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>First off... my apologies to the fine folks that run this FirstStrike community, those that have dedicated so may hours of their lives to making this kick-butt MOD for all of us to enjoy, for starting a very public display of my frustration with Gwynzer&#039;s behaviour.</p><p>Second, apologies to Gwynzer for making my disatisfaction with his behaviour public.&nbsp; I DID intend to bring it to light with those in charge of running this mod (for which I believed you were one), but did not mean to fester any further complications you&#039;re having with the FirstStrike leadership team.</p><p>The bottom line is this... I would like to PROUDLY tote the acomplishments of the fine team that put this MOD together and bring more folks into the game so we can regularly populate the servers - making it more FUN for all.</p><p>However, Gwynzer said it himself best... Gwynzer: &quot;Yes, I am rude, I am blunt, I am pretentious, yup, totally agree -&quot;</p><p>Frankly, that type of attitude is a complete turn-off to most (if not all) new players and the primary reason I think many don&#039;t return.&nbsp; DS hosts most of the community nights for which we a get good turn out... and new players that don&#039;t know folks here experience unbalance play and rude admins - which is a shame.</p><p>THAT is specifically why I chose to speak out on Friday.&nbsp; Please, feel free to browse through ALL of the forum posts on this site and you&#039;ll get a feel for the type of RUDE, PRETENTIOUS attitude that many of us have been subject to.&nbsp; Which, by the way, is VERY counterproductive.</p><p>Now... this whole &quot;COMMANDER&quot; thing in FirstStrike... Yeah, I wish the Commander position had more assests to help the field and hopefully some are on the way (I&#039;ll enjoy the MOD regardless).&nbsp; But I am NO NOVICE at Commanding... simply check C3-DaddyO&#039;s&nbsp; 2142 STATS - <a href="http://www.2142-stats.com/C3-DaddyO+Ranking.html">www.2142-stats.com/C3-DaddyO+Ranking.html</a>&nbsp; and check it out for yourself...&nbsp; At one time (about a year ago when I was still playing regularly), I was ranked one of the TOP 100 Commanders in the WORLD.&nbsp; I&#039;m likely still in the TOP 300 even though I haven&#039;t played more than 30hours of 2142 in the last 12 months.</p><p>If you&#039;re interested... check Gwynzer&#039;s... who&#039;s the nOOb?...&nbsp; <a href="http://www.2142-stats.com/Gwynzer+Ranking.html">http://www.2142-stats.com/Gwynzer+Ranking.html</a></p><p>I tend to follow GOOD HABITS and issue commands to squads OFTEN.&nbsp; Most often because the squad leaders have rogue members on thier squad that don&#039;t hone in on the objective.&nbsp; So, I issue another order from the Command screen to AID squad leaders - all they have to do is &quot;page-up&quot; to pass on the order again to thier squad members to try and keep them focused on the objective.&nbsp; THAT is why I re-issued an order to Gwyzer&#039;s squad - &#039;cause not everone was following his orders.</p><p>Now, back to the main point here... I DO NOT have a &quot;professional&quot; issue with Gwyner - frankly he and DS have done wonders for helping the FS community enjoy some pretty fruitful and fun evenings.&nbsp; Nor do I question his value as a knowledgeble contributor.&nbsp; &nbsp;Simply, his attitude sucks and I believe it turns people off -&nbsp; me included.</p><p>I wouldn&#039;t have brought it up had I not believed in this MOD or enjoyed playing the game with the community.</p><p>Peace out - this is MY LAST address of this issue - and hopefully Gwynzer&#039;s - let&#039;s just agree to dissagree and play in the sandbox nicely.</p><p>C3-DaddyO</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-04-13T02:35:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gwynzer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve got to say I lol at Tyler speaking about &quot;Conducting himself in a manner that we like to see represent FS&quot;, makes me think of those times when he really was the biggest dick you can be, maybe not now, still... <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I have turned over&nbsp; a new leaf <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> or a few leaves..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TY2D2]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-12T19:08:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Point taken.</p><p>Also, I was not familiar with the in-game customs of First Strike nowadays, as i dont really play a lot.</p><p>I shall just file it under &quot;My experiences playing FS&quot; and never think about it again.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pam]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-12T16:40:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Two things about that, pam.&nbsp; First, you knifed me in the previous round and I was LAUGHING over voip because of it. I was laughing at the fact I turned round and saw a stormie in my face with the baton out, and kill me before I got a shot off.</p><p>Second, you were calling our team a bunch of whores, I reply with &quot;You&#039;re a whore <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />&quot; I put the &quot;:P&quot; to show it was a joke, sorry you misunderstood!&nbsp; Personally, i think its quite rich that you of all people comment on other people attitudes...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gwynzer]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-12T15:26:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pam wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im sorry, but calling a girl a W hore in game, just because she let you have some baton is just not ok.</p></blockquote></div><p>You were the one calling people whores and Gwynzer replied with &quot;you&#039;re a whore <img src="https://forums.fsmod.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />&quot; and you can&#039;t take that as a joke? Geesh.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SamZi]]></name>
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			<updated>2009-04-12T15:23:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else experience problem with punkbuster while only connecting to the ds server..? I can get on all other servers that I tried except for cgs...</p><p>well anyway hope this $hit gets resolved, I may just contact them about it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2009-04-12T14:01:55Z</updated>
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