Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

You are totally missing the point, the time line doesn't matter, the fact is if it were universe vs universe, with combined might of one vs the other Star Wars wins hands down, mmkay?

Occupy and flee because of so many races? They held firm control over most of the SW Galaxy for a looong time, the only reason they lost it is because of Luke Skywalker, and Han Solo. 

Also, it doesn't matter what Lucas says, because he only made the 6 movies and a couple other things, there's a lot of EU that you cannot over look.

And the Empire and "Post" Empire are still the Empire.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

for one thing st isnt even the whole universe. If it was universe against universe then nobody would win. If it was federation against empire the empire would win. Borg against empire, empire would win.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

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You are totally missing the point, the time line doesn't matter, the fact is if it were universe vs universe, with combined might of one vs the other Star Wars wins hands down, mmkay?

Occupy and flee because of so many races? They held firm control over most of the SW Galaxy for a looong time, the only reason they lost it is because of Luke Skywalker, and Han Solo.

They held it for only 20 years. SW is fantasy scifi, ST is realistic scifi; heroes aren't always a defining factor in the latter. With all the opposition from the hundreds of thousands of races and the opposition of the most advanced societies, the Empire would not be able to successfully occupy the Milky way.

And the fighting of the Rebellion at home would drain supplies and focus from any conquest campaign.

Also, it doesn't matter what Lucas says, because he only made the 6 movies and a couple other things, there's a lot of EU that you cannot over look.

ST also has alot of EU you overlook.

And the Empire and "Post" Empire are still the Empire.

No, its a few warlords holding onto that title.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

you are confusing the federation with the entire galaxy. the empire would destroy any federation ship in seconds. None of the star trek species are as powerful as the empire and the only things more powerful are omnipotent creatures.

if st is realistic why are there omnipotent creatures

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

The Empire would not stop at the federation, it would have to take on the Klingon's due to the alliance, and would probably go after the Romulans and other empires. The combined forces would be something the Empire could not avoid and is what would defeat it.

if st is realistic why are there omnipotent creatures

Because it is a way to attack religious theory, and none of the leading characters or races have any omnipotent abilities. It is also based in far developed evolutionary steps, and not magic.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

lol i saw a galaxy gun

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Emperor Norton I wrote:

They held it for only 20 years. SW is fantasy scifi, ST is realistic scifi; heroes aren't always a defining factor in the latter. With all the opposition from the hundreds of thousands of races and the opposition of the most advanced societies, the Empire would not be able to successfully occupy the Milky way.

And the fighting of the Rebellion at home would drain supplies and focus from any conquest campaign.

ST also has alot of EU you overlook.


No, its a few warlords holding onto that title.

lol...
The Empire, is really only a name, the Republic which is what the Empire was made from held it for way longer than that, it was only called the Empire once they created an army because they needed one and Palpatine got all evil and such.

Ok so let me get this straight, you are saying that if the empire were attacking the Milky Way in ST every race would ally, but theres no way that the Rebels would ally with the Empire? That makes no sense, moot point.

I haven't overlooked anything, the fact is that Star Wars jsut has way more weapons on it's side.

WArlords much later, but it doesn't matter what they were called, what matters is that they were still extremely powerful. I think yo uare drawing way to far away from the original debate here... back on topic please?

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