43 Reply by FSDev| TALON (edited by FSDev| TALON 2007-11-20 15:19:58)

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Stardestroyersarecool wrote:

And sw hper drive is better than st warp.

That's kind of a pointless statement, as they are completely different ways to travel that aren't really comparable, they both do similar things just in different ways. One warps space around a vessel to achieve faster than light speeds and the other opens a portal to another dimension to circumvent the need for faster than light speeds. Unless you actually had a race from Sol to Alpha Centurai or something between a ship with a hyperdrive and a ship using warp drive (both of which I might add don't exist) who's to say which is the best/fastest mode of travel? It's fiction. And unless there are fictional, but canon figures to measure the speed these ships go at (admitedly there probably is in Trek circles due to the real world physics which tend to be employed by Trek fans and the various tech manuals), there are no such figures in the Star Wars universe as those movies were all about the adventure with the tech just as part of the scenery rather than the be all and end all.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

FSDev| TALON wrote:
Stardestroyersarecool wrote:

And sw hper drive is better than st warp.

That's kind of a pointless statement, as they are completely different ways to travel that aren't really comparable, they both do similar things just in different ways. One warps space around a vessel to achieve faster than light speeds and the other opens a portal to another dimension to circumvent the need for faster than light speeds. Unless you actually had a race from Sol to Alpha Centurai or something between a ship with a hyperdrive and a ship using warp drive (both of which I might add don't exist) who's to say which is the best/fastest mode of travel? It's fiction. And unless there are fictional, but canon figures to measure the speed these ships go at (admitedly there probably is in Trek circles due to the real world physics which tend to be employed by Trek fans and the various tech manuals), there are no such figures in the Star Wars universe as those movies were all about the adventure with the tech just as part of the scenery rather than the be all and end all.

In sw you can get across the galaxy in hours but in st it takes days and weeks to get across a quatre of the galaxy.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

took voyager 7 years to cross the galaxy.

technology is worse but still a good show

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46 Reply by Emperor Norton I (edited by Emperor Norton I 2007-11-20 16:46:11)

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Stardestroyersarecool wrote:

In sw you can get across the galaxy in hours but in st it takes days and weeks to get across a quatre of the galaxy.

But thats because they have a thorough map. If a SW ship doesn't know the map of its surroundings, it'll take a pretty long time.

Compared with Trek that works on the same dimensional plain as its universe, they can simply warp aimlessly.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

star wars ships cannot drive into a planet and nor can federation ships.

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48 Reply by FSDev| TALON (edited by FSDev| TALON 2007-11-20 17:00:27)

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Stardestroyersarecool wrote:
FSDev| TALON wrote:
Stardestroyersarecool wrote:

And sw hper drive is better than st warp.

That's kind of a pointless statement, as they are completely different ways to travel that aren't really comparable, they both do similar things just in different ways. One warps space around a vessel to achieve faster than light speeds and the other opens a portal to another dimension to circumvent the need for faster than light speeds. Unless you actually had a race from Sol to Alpha Centurai or something between a ship with a hyperdrive and a ship using warp drive (both of which I might add don't exist) who's to say which is the best/fastest mode of travel? It's fiction. And unless there are fictional, but canon figures to measure the speed these ships go at (admitedly there probably is in Trek circles due to the real world physics which tend to be employed by Trek fans and the various tech manuals), there are no such figures in the Star Wars universe as those movies were all about the adventure with the tech just as part of the scenery rather than the be all and end all.

In sw you can get across the galaxy in hours but in st it takes days and weeks to get across a quatre of the galaxy.

That is not exactly true. I can't remember the exact source, may have been a roleplaying games, so not exactly cast iron canon, but there was a hyperspace travel gazetteer that documented estimated travel times from location to location via hyperspace routes, they went into days of travel, and for some locations even weeks. That said, now someone has mentioned Voyager, yeah, they did take seven years to cross a galaxy at Warp whatever they were usually travelling at, so I guess using that as a yardstick Hyperspace travel is superior.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

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Whoever mentioned size about a BC being smaller than a ISD... you are simply wrong. Go to the link above and it proves my point.

Strength of an ISD compared to a ST ship? SW shielding tech is much different than that of ST, one requires deflecting of lasers, the other blocks physical contact. Theoretically a federation ship could stay at long distances as its weapon's range are tens of thousands of kilometers far. From here the phasers, though not nearly as powerful as the Turbolaser cannons, could effectively damage (not destroy) the ISD allowing for powerful guided torpedo barrages to deal more damage.

The ISD, according to EU and SW:M (the opening of ANH), does have the ability for great velocities foreward, however it has an inadequate rotation speed (which is not a flaw since it is COVERED in guns).

The fact that ISD's are pure warships and that all federation ships serve as a dual role as exploration and defense vessels can put things into perspective.

If given warning of an Imperial invasion the Federation would have a good deal of time before accurate hyperspace maps were charted allowing for preperation and perhaps giving them time to actually put up a real fight wink

Now in the end how much of a fight put up by the federation against the Empire can be taken from two accounts; all of EU and the Movies, or where Wong takes them from The Amazing Cross Sections Clone Wars, which makes the figures astronomical for the Wars side as the author sees a BDZ as a total glassification of a planet.