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Re: Jetpacks for All Players

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They spend hours upon hours perfecting it, and you should just be grateful to be allowed to play it.  Don't like that? Then go play Battlefront.

UNBELIEVABLE.  That pretentious and elitist attitude is not serving First Strike or Star Wars fans well at all.   Keep in mind the First Strike servers are virtually empty during the evening hours here in the USA and Battlefront 2 servers are packed with people well into the late night hours.

All I was suggesting was that there should be maps with jetpacks for all and other maps with NO jetpacks.  Then people can decide which maps they want to play on which servers.  If you don't want to play the All Jetpack maps, Gwynzer, then you wouldn't have to join the servers which featured the All Jetpack maps.  There's a lot of people who would love to play All Jetpack maps.

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Well, I'll just throw this out here from personal experience:

#1: The jetpacks were NOT made for public use, and having that many in one map would be a DISASTER.

#2: This i have seen a LOT: When you say "A lot of people would love it", think about the kind of people you're talking about. The jet packs would ruin the balance, and everyone who would instantly pounce on that opportunity to grief and screw up the server would kill the experience..

#3: Now, coming off of the last one, when new people who are there just to have a good time join a server and see a bunch of griefers flying around on jet packs, causing insane amounts of trouble, what would their initial reaction be? "Wow. This mod had great potential, but the people playing it kind of ruin it for everyone."

#4: If there were jet packs, all of the existing vehicles would be neglected. "Hey, want to grab a tank?" "Meh, screw tanks! We've got jet packs!"   

#5: I can just imagine all of the possibilities for server crashage here. It was obvious from the beginning of this thread that you hadn't thought this through at all, and I'm not the only one that can tell you that. neutral

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Just to let you guys know, I have not tried the jetpack kick yet, nor do I intend to. This isn't Battlefront. There shouldn't be any Bounty Hunter kits. Normal soldiers did not have jetpacks. We shouldn't either. I hope the next patch removes them. I wouldn't mind some sort of regular type kit, available in large numbers. For instance, I'd like to see a pilot kit, with a pistol(and possibly a carbine), repair tool, special smoke grenades, and other stuff, with the models of the pilots. (Though, when you pick up a kit, I think it only changes your head, so that wouldn't work) And scattered around Ryloth and Hoth hangers.

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TIEpilot234 wrote:

Just to let you guys know, I have not tried the jetpack kick yet, nor do I intend to. This isn't Battlefront. There shouldn't be any Bounty Hunter kits. Normal soldiers did not have jetpacks. We shouldn't either. I hope the next patch removes them.

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I wouldn't mind some sort of regular type kit, available in large numbers. For instance, I'd like to see a pilot kit, with a pistol(and possibly a carbine), repair tool, special smoke grenades, and other stuff, with the models of the pilots. (Though, when you pick up a kit, I think it only changes your head, so that wouldn't work) And scattered around Ryloth and Hoth hangers.

Sounds cool. I've always liked smoke grenades for some reason, ever since playing as a sniper in BF:Vietnam. I had always loved to find a place and shoot until someone spotted me, then toss a smoke grenade and hope a friendly helicopter came and picked me up for evac. Good times. I would of course love to be that imperial soldier that runs out of ammo, and is on the run from a rebel strike team, then find a hiding place, toss a smoke grenade, and watch as a lambda swoops down, clears out the rebels, and picks me up. That would be epic, awesome, great teamwork, and a beautiful demonstration of the mod. big_smile

EDIT: On reflection, unless it was a very talented pilot, the rebs would probably obliterate me when I threw the smoke grenade. Now, if It WERE a very talented pilot, then I have to say,

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That would be epic, awesome, great teamwork, and a beautiful demonstration of the mod. big_smile

~Couldn't have put it better myself.

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Re: Jetpacks for All Players

S-Guy wrote:

[EDIT: On reflection, unless it was a very talented pilot, the rebs would probably obliterate me when I threw the smoke grenade. Now, if It WERE a very talented pilot, then I have to say,

S-Guy wrote:

That would be epic, awesome, great teamwork, and a beautiful demonstration of the mod. big_smile

~Couldn't have put it better myself.

Erm, unless it was a very talented pilot, he would land the ship on you and crush you with the ramp, or the wings would hit the ground and the lambda would flip over, careening through you, your smoke screen and the rebel strike team.
Everyone in and out of the lambda would die in a fireball.

Lambdas are the bricks of the sky.

Now, a couple of jetpack players could form an amazing cavalry. The empires army has had jet/jump packs since the clone wars- they're just not much use in forests or starships.

I'm not saying don't nerf the jetpack, I'm just saying don't remove a fun thing.

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There's a lot of people who would love to play All Jetpack maps.

Those people should just stick to Battlefront. First Strike is not Battlefront and that's why it's a 100 times better.

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DUKE815 wrote:

UNBELIEVABLE.  That pretentious and elitist attitude is not serving First Strike or Star Wars fans well at all.   Keep in mind the First Strike servers are virtually empty during the evening hours here in the USA and Battlefront 2 servers are packed with people well into the late night hours.

This doesnt have anything to do with the fact that alot of the 2142 community just isn't intestested in modding anymore; the fact that battlefront 2 has been advertised on places like the SW website and has had TV ads; nor the fact that FS is only really spread through word of mouth, does it?  The fact it gets sold in shops where the retailers advertise it so it gets sold really increases the amount of players.


All I was suggesting was that there should be maps with jetpacks for all and other maps with NO jetpacks.  Then people can decide which maps they want to play on which servers.  If you don't want to play the All Jetpack maps, Gwynzer, then you wouldn't have to join the servers which featured the All Jetpack maps.

Right now, all jetpack users to are:
Sit and camp the JP Spawn point until they get the kit;
When they DO get the kit, they just sit messing flying around, not helping the team in any way.

Maps using the jetpack heavily? Go and make one yourself if you want it, and you will see how much a mistake this would be.  How would it work? "Oh, all of a sudden everyone has jetpacks!". What the objective of the map? To fly around aimlessly missing the enemy team whenever you fire.  Seriously, think your ideas through before you suggest them.

There's a lot of people who would love to play All Jetpack maps.

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Those people should just stick to Battlefront. First Strike is not Battlefront and that's why it's a 100 times better.

Yes, exactly.  Theres alot of people who want to play?  None of the people I consider to be "good" in this mod want that, I don't think.  They all want to concentrate on using teamplay and skill to win a map.  The majority, if not all, of the players who want "all jetpack maps" really have no idea what all the concepts that make First strike so great, and better than Battlefront and Vanilla 2142, are all about.

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