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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

They are not more heavily armoured than TIE Fighters, just a lot harder to hit because of their size speed and manuverability. The Airspeeders do seem to need a little nerfing, which is a shame as they feel great to fly just as they are, I'd rather see the TIE Fighter improved a little to be able to better deal with them, but then we'd be looking at globally adjusting all the starfighters to keep things balanced across the board. This would be a pain, but I think worth doing if we can make all the fighters a little faster and more nimble, but then we run the risk of making the space invulnerability bug worse again.

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

My vote would be to have the airspeeders weapons do less damage than Tie lasers. They're supposedly patrol craft (the EU states they are originally unarmed civilian ships given cannons) and aren't meant for shooting heavily armoured tanks /starfighters/AT-ATs.

Incidentally, ties are quite armored- starfighter lasers just happen to be really powerful.

That should give the speeders an edge in maneuverability (being true aircraft) and the Ties an edge in  firepower and survivability ( a refreshing break from the norm)

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

RSF Angel wrote:

My vote would be to have the airspeeders weapons do less damage than Tie lasers. They're supposedly patrol craft (the EU states they are originally unarmed civilian ships given cannons) and aren't meant for shooting heavily armoured tanks /starfighters/AT-ATs.

Incidentally, ties are quite armored- starfighter lasers just happen to be really powerful.

That should give the speeders an edge in maneuverability (being true aircraft) and the Ties an edge in  firepower and survivability ( a refreshing break from the norm)

You're joking aren't you? Have you seen the size of an Airspeeder's laser cannons compared to a TIEs?

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

They are not more heavily armoured than TIE Fighters, just a lot harder to hit because of their size speed and manuverability. The Airspeeders do seem to need a little nerfing, which is a shame as they feel great to fly just as they are

I know I should've written this earlier, but the reason I want them gone from Ryloth is actually precisely that - they are so incredibly awesome to fly and I love them, and if the choice is between nerfing them on this and all future maps featuring them, or removing them from this map and featuring them on other maps as the awesome experience they are, my vote is on the latter.

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

Safe-Keeper wrote:

They are not more heavily armoured than TIE Fighters, just a lot harder to hit because of their size speed and maneuverability. The Airspeeders do seem to need a little nerfing, which is a shame as they feel great to fly just as they are

I know I should've written this earlier, but the reason I want them gone from Ryloth is actually precisely that - they are so incredibly awesome to fly and I love them, and if the choice is between nerfing them on this and all future maps featuring them, or removing them from this map and featuring them on other maps as the awesome experience they are, my vote is on the latter.

In fact, in my mind, Airspeeders are the balancing factor against Imperial AT-AT's. A lightly powered but highly maneuverable and fast attack vehicle to balance out against the slow moving harbinger of devastation that is the AT-AT. Hoth had better not be the only map to get AT-AT's. On maps with AT-AT's, include Airspeeders in the Rebel arsenal.

If there's a map where airspeeders are on it and the Imperials don't get AT-AT's, balance out with atmospheric TIE Interceptors and give the TIE Bombers concussion missiles in addition to their bombs. Keep the Airspeeders as they are, but I'd suggest reducing their numbers or eliminating them on Ryloth and adding an X-wing or two, since air-to-air is a little too appealing on Ryloth right now.

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

FSDev| TALON wrote:

You're joking aren't you? Have you seen the size of an Airspeeder's laser cannons compared to a TIEs?

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Size matters not.

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There is some evidence available of the power output of the X-wing's laser cannon. In Isard's Revenge, book eight of the X-wing novel series, X-wings were used to great effect against AT-AT walkers. The snubfighter's lasers had no problems burning through the walkers' armored hides and causing critical damage to the vital internal components within (this raises the question of why X-wings weren't used at Hoth instead of the T-47 airspeeder). In addition, Brian Young's turbolaser commentary points out that the X-wing's laser cannon were boiling away armor plating from the Death Star's surface, which may point out that the snubfighter's cannon can unleash more destructive energy in ten seconds than the amount of power produced by the entire United States!

Tie lasers are of similar power to X-wing lasers.

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Re: ITT I rant about vehicles, mostly

Concussion missiles for TIE Bombers on Ryloth is an interesting idea, even though of course they're not supposed to be fighters, and this'd detract from the need to give them fighter escort (teamwork).

I disagree on the "maps with AT-AT's must have Airspeeder" point, though. RS did this (and admittedly took it to its extreme big_smile ), and I didn't really like it. There are many ways to take down AT-AT's (in a comic one is taken down by the Millenium Falcon), and so featuring T-47's on every map is overdoing it, I feel.

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