• From: Austria
  • Registered: 2007-09-29
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Re: Forcing Squads

i still think it would be wrong to force ppl into squads, and giving them extra score for being in a squad is not necessary either, because if you are working together well, then the players will end up on top of the scoreboard in 90% of the cases
i see it myself very often, even yesterday some very nice rounds i ended up as 1. just because i played officer and had a good squad around me!!

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  • From: TX
  • Registered: 2007-10-07
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Re: Forcing Squads

Force players to squad up??  Aww hell no..  Sometimes I play in a squad sometimes I feel like going alone.  Start forceing me to do stuff I don't always like to do will really turn me away from this mod.  Don't do it.

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Re: Forcing Squads

i still think it would be wrong to force ppl into squads, and giving them extra score for being in a squad is not necessary either, because if you are working together well, then the players will end up on top of the scoreboard in 90% of the cases

But it would encourage people to squad up, especially now that the ranking system has been implemented.

Start forceing me to do stuff I don't always like to do will really turn me away from this mod.  Don't do it.

But why? What's the disadvantage of joining a squad? As was said, we can't make you follow orders, you get more spawn points (the SL and his beacon), and all your weapons and equipment is unlocked. What on Earth do you have to lose?

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  • Registered: 2006-03-23
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Re: Forcing Squads

FSDev| TALON wrote:

I think it is a bad idea at this point to be quite honest, we have enough problems with people getting kicked because of Punkbuster and other glitches without adding intentional ways of kicking people right now. I do believe we need a way to make new players more aware of the benefits of squading up, but I don't think this is the way to go about it, at least not now.

I am absolutely in agreement, Talon.

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Re: Forcing Squads

Can you not give people , who join a squad, a 100 point bonus? So, those in squads will always be at the top of the end round leaderboard.

This doesnt go for every lone wolfer, but Iv found that the majority of loners tend to be so for points/stats.

The issue with the bonus points is can it be coded that you have to be in the squad for the majority of the round and not give a bonus each time you join a squad , during the round. Otherwise you'll get people just jumping in and out of squads , stat padding.

Im all for the 80 second warning to join a squad , or be kicked...... but I agree with Canadiens that it isnt the best policy early in the mod's playable life. I'd like to see it implemented eventually... I'd just take baby steps towards it tho..or give people enough encouragement to join a squad so that it isnt necessary.

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  • Registered: 2006-07-24
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Re: Forcing Squads

As FS' foremost commander at the moment I seriously wish everyone would join up in squads first thing.  It would definitely help with the coordination a lot more.

That said, I've found shouting "                               SQUAD UP" in big yellow letters usually gets my point across.  Putting in lots of spaces at the front ofi it puts my text in the middle of their screens. For now, and loathe as I am to say this, I fear talon's right about us not needing any more ways to drop people from servers.  As much as I would love to do what you say, Jay, and get people into squads, I feel it wouldn't be prudent.  Give it another week, and with luck all the newbish players will start coming around.  And even better we can release this as a serverside patch at a later date so it doesn't have to wait for 1.3

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Re: Forcing Squads

Let me see.....run round the map with just a gun and a couple nades, or join a squad and get all the avaible items in the kit......NO CONTEST! Though for some reason, on some servers you can join a squad and not have all the items (due to low members) or go lonewolf and for some reason they are all available.

I like being able to use voip to co-ordinate though, far easier and quicker. There's another benefit to squads as well, if playing as the support class, find an enemy spawn beacon and surround it with proxy mines. Stand back, gain kills. Go back, repeat. Or...place a detpack on it and run, then watch many bodies fly in to the sky big_smile Spawn beacon, I salute you \:)

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