This is how I would set up Endor, which is 100% more accurate to the movies than what we have.

Brown: Hill/cliff/inclined

Green: Darker=thicker trees

1. Where we see Han and company overlook the Landing Pad, see the imperial outpost in the nightshot and see the shield projector in the distance. This view is impossible in the current Endor.

2. Lambda insertion, May not be exactly accurate in distance to certain other landmarks, but should be included on the top of a hill or cliff in some way because we see it landed on one in the movies, and the Rebel strike team hiked down.

3. Endor Bunker, for some reason in the current Endor the bunker is in such a place that requires the rebels to go through the entire Imperial complex to capture, this is not lore accurate, it should be somewhere to the side, where I have placed it may be more accurate, but it was possibly on the other side in between 8 and 5 in hte movie, though map size I think would restrict that from working out well and where I put it in this map is perfectly fine imo because it gives plenty of room for battling and such.

4. Scout camp rebels encountered.

5. Shield Projector Location.

6. Landing pad.

7. Imperial alternate outpost or jsut another scout camp. Not entirely necessary.

8. Imperial Outpost which was supposed to be the primary entrance to the power generators in the movies.

9. Ewok Tree Village location.

10. Waterfall, because waterfalls kickass. And water/streams would add a great ambient effect to an Endor map.

Now, the only things in this map that would be capturable would be 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 [option maybe a 64 player size thing] and 8.   2, would be Rebels insertion point, uncappable, and I feel the Ewok tree village (9) should be purely for ambiance, possible a good location for Rebels to place spawn beacons as a beach head, but not a place Imperials should ever go. Their focus should be their own assets and outposts like in the movies. Another option for 7 would be purely an alternate spawn for imperials, like an ATST and speederbikes as we have in Endor atm.  7 actually could be moved quite a ways down and provide the primary pathway to the landing pad and Imperial outpost. But I can't really say right now, lots of things to think about.  But really, in the end there should be 2 options for rebels on Endor, do as the movies say and attack the bunker and side step the Imperial complex, or take on the empire in a frontal assault and for through the complex, and possibly all the way to the shield projector. When/If the interior is implemented it would be an objective/pushmode map where Rebels can destroy the shield generators, or capture the Shield projector depending on how well the Imperials defend certain control points.

As such, they would look like this:

64 Player:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/ … ndor64.png

32 Player:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/ … ndor32.png

16 Player:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/ … ndor16.png

Then I would be happy :]

"Munchkin: One who, on being told that this is a game about politics and intrigue in 17th century Italy, asks to play a ninja."
— Andrew Rilstone

I'm 100% in favor of a death bubble on the Outpost roof... in the Ewok village, less so. Maybe if it was very clearly marked in the minimap, but even then it'd kill a lot of people. And I just don't know how popular it'd be, either. So I'll remain undecided on this one.

Forgotten Hope. Project Reality.

As for making the Imperial Outpost an uncap, it's an idea I've been playing with, too, mostly because it'd be movie-accurate. I'm less worried about balance, though. All we need to do to make Imperial Outpost fun to fight over again is to make the roof a death bubble so that griefers can't set up camps up there. IO battles were great fun before people figured out they could do this.

Umm it's totally untrue to the movies, this mod is about lore accuracy and it utterly fails on Endor.

yea, not exaclty fun for the rebels, I have been in both positions as well, as Imperials its always fun slaughtering rebels as the filter through the woods, but as rebels its not exactly fun getting sniped over and over and then finally getting there only to be faced with a wall of prox mines. Its total crap.

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Bunker being last doesn't make sense if the landing pad and outpost are included, not accurate to the movies, rebels didn't have to capture an Imperial complex to get to bunker, they snuck around, you know, like rebels. EST was hardly intended to be a frontal fighting force against an Imperial legion. Giving Rebels 2 options would make the map infinitely better in terms of replay-ability. And I wouldn't make it so Imperials CAN'T enter the village, I would much rather just make it unnecessary to win as it is in 90% of the cases in the current version.

A good compromise for the current map, but the geography of the current map is still completely wrong.

"Munchkin: One who, on being told that this is a game about politics and intrigue in 17th century Italy, asks to play a ninja."
— Andrew Rilstone