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Re: Where did everyone go?

Luke SkyRaper wrote:

"Constructfull Critizism" even mispelled like that , is an oxy-moron.
Try " constructive comments "  or "constructive advice "
but for those two items to remain positive, you cannot make your message sound like -

Wrong, you learn more from your mistakes then you do from your sucesses.  Thusly someone pointing out mistakes helps you learn and correct them.

- Someone has wronged you in any way
- Someone owes you something
- A whining brat 10 year old
- You are some kind of victim

Otherwise you will never be taken seriously by anyone with any real power.

Check, Check, Check and Check for when I did give Critisizm.

My original post in this thread was just plain facts on why I and a few of my friends quit (Point of the thread if im not mistaken).  I was then insulted so I defended myself.

93 Reply by Stardestroyersarecool (edited by Stardestroyersarecool 2008-07-08 15:38:51)

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Re: Where did everyone go?

MrMonkey wrote:
herbanator3 wrote:

Well yes in real life that would suck, but this is just a game man. I'm not trying to be mean, but you need to get over this man, there are more important things to worry about.

A game no more or less significant then say, Soccer, Baseball, Football, Hocky, Polo, Skateboarding, Tennis, Ping-Pong... etc.   Try telling sports fans and players that all their trophys mean nothing, or to try and take them away :-P

Um.... this is far less significant for the simple fact that it is NOT REAL. Do you honestly believe that if you were to gain a trophy in a game, that said champion of the world, it would be as good as earning one in real life? If so I suggest you speak to a shrink. I can tell the difference between gold and pixels, can you? smile

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94 Reply by Luke SkyRaper (edited by Luke SkyRaper 2008-07-08 15:51:35)

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Re: Where did everyone go?

You feed people like this by simply carrying on about anything they have to say.
(hands out more free food)

What he or she really needs to learn in order to ascend to the next level of life is to learn
that No Body gets what they want ,
No one is ever satisfied ,
No one is every truly happy.

With this in mind , you learn to realise that you take a situation and work with it , adapt.
If your momma hand fed you until you were entering high-school, then you are going to have harsh
experiences like -not getting everything you want when you want it ,  all through life.
Lastly they must learn to realise how much of an irritation and nusance to others around them.
In the end they only leave a spot of squeezey pooh on the sidewalk.

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95 Reply by MrMonkey (edited by MrMonkey 2008-07-08 16:30:02)

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Re: Where did everyone go?

Stardestroyersarecool wrote:
MrMonkey wrote:
herbanator3 wrote:

Well yes in real life that would suck, but this is just a game man. I'm not trying to be mean, but you need to get over this man, there are more important things to worry about.

A game no more or less significant then say, Soccer, Baseball, Football, Hocky, Polo, Skateboarding, Tennis, Ping-Pong... etc.   Try telling sports fans and players that all their trophys mean nothing, or to try and take them away :-P

Um.... this is far less significant for the simple fact that it is NOT REAL. Do you honestly believe that if you were to gain a trophy in a game, that said champion of the world, it would be as good as earning one in real life? If so I suggest you speak to a shrink. I can tell the difference between gold and pixels, can you? smile

If I had competed in the World Cyber Olympics and earned a trophy saying I was number one in the world, yes, even if it was actualy just a virtual trophy.

A peice of gold means absolutly nothing, its what is ment by the gold, the Idea of the thing, that means something.  Earning something is earning something.  Computer games are of no different level then any other game/sport.  Both require training and skill in specific areas.

What he or she really needs to learn in order to ascend to the next level of life is to learn
that No Body gets what they want ,
No one is ever satisfied ,
No one is every truly happy.

What a sad existence you must live if you truly belive that you will never ever be happy or satisfied.  I do feel some pitty for you now.

With this in mind , you learn to realise that you take a situation and work with it , adapt.

Adapt to a situation when adapting is required.  When a wrong is done onto you, you find try to find out why it happened.   If it was without cause or you can't find out why it happend seek justice or atleast reparation for what was stolen.   Only reason I was given was that they didn't like what I said and I did, infact, think their squeezey pooh did stink (unlike many people on the forums).   That, atleast to me, is not a reason to attempt to perma ban someone from all servers and wipe their stats and perma ban their forum account/IP.

Being surounded by "Yes Men" is what leads to poor decisions, see President Bush.  Smart people can make stupid decisions some times.  If those decisions are left un-opposed and are supported by all the people around, more stupid decisions are made.

96 Reply by Twigs (edited by Twigs 2008-07-08 16:37:17)

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Re: Where did everyone go?

MrMonkey wrote:

Wrong, you learn more from your mistakes then you do from your sucesses.  Thusly someone pointing out mistakes helps you learn and correct them.

My original post in this thread was just plain facts on why I and a few of my friends quit (Point of the thread if im not mistaken).  I was then insulted so I defended myself.

I would like some evidence to that first statement. In many cases criticism compounds the problem for an individual rather than allows them to learn from it. Simply stating 'thats crap try something else' add's nothing to learn from without having the positive pointed out.

If my son fails to catch a ball, I dont say "you missed, try again". He doesnt learn from that. Instead, I say "Nearly! Put your hands up and watch the ball". Now he is prepared for the next step. He has made a mistake but been given guidance. Without guidance you do not learn.

Yes you have every right to defend yourself. However, I personally feel that many of your posts have given nothing constructive to a subject. Many of those posts that you claim are to defend your position have shown arrogance and contempt. Before you go flaming me, note that I said in MY opinion and MANY of your posts. That does not mean I speak for any group, team or indiviual or on the forums, nor does it refer to every post you have made.

MrMonkey wrote:

Being surounded by "Yes Men" is what leads to poor decisions, see President Bush.  Smart people can make stupid decisions some times.  If those decisions are left un-opposed and are supported by all the people around, more stupid decisions are made.

I'm afraid that once again you are off the mark. There are no yes men feeding ego's here. In fact more often there are clashes where one idea is dropped in favour of another. This is often because thats just what the dev team is limited to. If the answer "we're sorry its not possible in this engine" isnt good enough, then this isnt the game for you.

I myself have added many opinions to what should be done to either improve the gameplay or make it more realistic, but I cant have it my way. A game is not meant to feed an individual but a group. If the majority like it then why should it be changed to suit one lone voice?

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97 Reply by Stardestroyersarecool (edited by Stardestroyersarecool 2008-07-08 17:14:37)

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Re: Where did everyone go?

MrMonkey wrote:
Stardestroyersarecool wrote:
MrMonkey wrote:

A game no more or less significant then say, Soccer, Baseball, Football, Hocky, Polo, Skateboarding, Tennis, Ping-Pong... etc.   Try telling sports fans and players that all their trophys mean nothing, or to try and take them away :-P

Um.... this is far less significant for the simple fact that it is NOT REAL. Do you honestly believe that if you were to gain a trophy in a game, that said champion of the world, it would be as good as earning one in real life? If so I suggest you speak to a shrink. I can tell the difference between gold and pixels, can you? smile

If I had competed in the World Cyber Olympics and earned a trophy saying I was number one in the world, yes, even if it was actualy just a virtual trophy.

A peice of gold means absolutly nothing, its what is ment by the gold, the Idea of the thing, that means something.  Earning something is earning something.  Computer games are of no different level then any other game/sport.  Both require training and skill in specific areas.

Computer games are far different, I can practice for 5 minutes on a game and be as good as anyone else, not so in reality. As for the idea of the thing, if you had an olimpic medal taken from you for no good reason then you could complain, but you have lost meaningless pixels on a screen that nobody but you cares about. If you so desperatley need to earn a reward I advise you to make it worthwhile. Go earn a medal of bravery by saving some kids or win olimpic gold. We are all here to have fun, not listen to people like you who cry about things that never existed to begin with! Those things being PIXELS, NOT REAL ACOMPLISHMENTS

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