Talon, getting a more-than-little frustrated with noobs on RT's server last night, accused them of being 'Muppets'.

Now, if you're not from the UK, you can be forgiven for not knowing that 'Muppet' has, for the last 20 years or so, been a derogatory term for someone who does something stupid; hence it's application to noobs.

SamZi really surprised me and others by having never heard of a Muppet! How can this be? I mean, everyone's seen 'Sesame Street', haven't they?

I can think of no better course than to point SamZi (and other woefully ignorant youngsters) in this direction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Henson

I've posted this in the Star Wars discussion section as it is actually on topic. If you check out the 'Transition to the big screen' section of the above Wikipedia entry, you will discover that Yoda was designed by Jim Henson's company, and operated and voiced by Henson's partner Frank Oz. Yes, Yoda was a Muppet! "Fozzy Bear, my father was"...

Muppets played a bigger part in Star Wars than many people realise. Many of the creatures in the OT were Henson-inspired/created. Whilst Yoda was the most ambitious in characterisation and realism (one of Henson's original objectives when he started Muppets Inc.), banthas were probably the most ambitious in scale, as it involved putting a Muppet costume on an elephant!

Mmm... vanilla!