Topic: X-Wing wing animation

I have an idea for a change on the wing animations due to velocity:
vertical-take-of -> wings in folded/hinged position
normal fly -> swinged out position
fast fly/boost -> wings in folded/hinged position

2 (edited by Benu_Kenobi 2010-01-16 19:28:42)

Re: X-Wing wing animation

erm... The X-wings already do that? hmm

edit: ahk, true, didn't read the boost part properly.

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Re: X-Wing wing animation

Not quite Ben, they wings stay out when you boost. I believe the only reason people believe the wings fold in for extra speed is because of the Rogue Squadron games.

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Re: X-Wing wing animation

Rogue Squadron and Battlefront too I think. big_smile
Otherwise you cannot differ fast from normal mode.
Is there any film scene or something else proofing that X-Wing do not fold the wing while flying faster?

Re: X-Wing wing animation

A wookie told me:

wookie wrote:

In some models, its already impressive velocity was tweaked to allow short microbursts of speed. However, in order to utilize this feature, the weapons systems had to be switched off and the S-foils locked flush against each other. Other models utilized the locked foils while maintaining weapons, albeit at reduced power and accuracy.

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eh..

6 (edited by Safe-Keeper 2010-01-17 07:42:09)

Re: X-Wing wing animation

Is there any film scene or something else proofing that X-Wing do not fold the wing while flying faster?

The Battle of Yavin. I'd be very surprised if the fighters didn't do everything they could to fly as fast as possible while making that trench run. Race against time to destroy Death Star + TIE fighters in hot pursuit = X-Wings and Y-Wings flying at maximum speed.

I guess it could make sense in atmosphere to fold the wings for going faster (kinda like an F-14 folding its wings backwards, I suppose), but I'm no expert on the subject. Would be interesting if Twigs (former RAF fighter pilot) elaborated on that.

To be honest, though, I always felt it looked kinda silly in the RS games when you had wings constantly opening and closing during combat.

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Re: X-Wing wing animation

Safe-Keeper wrote:

Would be interesting if Twigs (former RAF fighter pilot) elaborated on that.

Twigs is not a former RAF pilot, Twigs is a current RAF aircraft engineer.

Wings sweep backwards in modern jets to increase speed but not how you think. It doesn't make it any more aerodynamically efficient than a conventional wing design. You will notice all current fighter jets have some kind of 'sweep' in the wings, no matter if they can move or not. This is so because as they approach the speed of sound, shockwaves begin to form on the wings, if you sweep the wings you delay the point at which these shock waves form on the wings.

Folding S-Foils in space would not give you any kind of a speed incrase as there is no air to create any drag and so nothing to prevent you hitting high speeds. In atmosphere though that may be slightly different, S-Foils out should increase the amount of lift generated (more surface area) and so be better for slow speeds. Locking S-foils would give a smaller lift area but decrease the amount of drag (since we now have to large surface areas removed), since drag increases at twice the rate of speed increase due to atmospheric pressure, it makes sense to reduce drag as much as possible to better increase your speed.

In other words, if you double your speed, drag will increase by four. So, if you have an object you want to fly rather than increase thrust to increase speed it makes more sense and is more efficient to decrease drag.

I could of course have the facts a little wrong there, this is basic aerodynamics stuff, I last sat through that lesson 12 years ago tongue

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