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Moving from EA/Dice to Steam/Valve is like moving from one realm of hell to another. Valve/steam does not support offline patching that is why I boycott their LAN unfriendly products. I have no problem with patch download services (I even use the EA Downloader) but I do not want to have to download every patch again only because I uninstalled a game.

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Eh you have a good point there, before Garry's Mod was bought by Valve, I hated patching that game. Plus steams servers are crap.

Without a ton of cash, the number of freely usable engines out there is limited.

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FSDev| Woodrow wrote:

If their games were free then I would agree with that statement.  But when they promise a bunch of features then get us to all rush out and buy the game, only to discover that 30% of the features are actually in it and the other 70% you have to pay extra money to get, are broken beyond belief, or won't exist at all regardless of their promise, then you can't help but want to complain a bit.  And when thousands of us complain for well over a year and instead of fixing them they bundle up those promised fixes and features into a brand new game (still ignoring our more-than-minority voice) to make even more money, you definately feel a bit more than angry.

Sounds like Oblivion.... that evil Pete Hines promising us horse armour and then taking it away and making us pay for it. EVIL. Even if it is only a couple bucks for each of the official oblivion downloads, it's not worth it.

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Crusader wrote:

I think it is a shame that talented people like you and your team are limited to mod tools and SDKs since I think that you could really do some amazing stuff with "an own engine". 
I would not be surprised if BF2142 has no mod support at all since mod servers do not bring the extra money EA wants from its comercial and ranked server hosting deals.

they gonna support mods, cause they know when they support mod, it extends the life of their game, and more money for them too of course

Well you can always try to win in the lottery so that you can buy your own Unreal 3 engine.
No idea how much money you would need to win but there are 35M € in the German jackpot right now. Maybe this would be a start smile

Well America's Army is gonna use the Unreal 3 engine

I think most of the people in this community stated often enough that they want to buy 2142 because of your mod and not because of DICE so an engine change would not really kill this project for most of us smile

thx a lot smile

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FSDev| Woodrow wrote:

    If their games were free then I would agree with that statement.  But when they promise a bunch of features then get us to all rush out and buy the game, only to discover that 30% of the features are actually in it and the other 70% you have to pay extra money to get, are broken beyond belief, or won't exist at all regardless of their promise, then you can't help but want to complain a bit.  And when thousands of us complain for well over a year and instead of fixing them they bundle up those promised fixes and features into a brand new game (still ignoring our more-than-minority voice) to make even more money, you definately feel a bit more than angry.

Absolutely Woody. I've decided to stop buying EA game products  because they are seriously beggining to destroy the video game world. They're sucking up more and more game companies, and making them follow ridiculous commecial guidelines that are ruining the buisness. All we can do, like you said, is stop buying their products. Unfortunately, we know that organizing a mass boycott of EA products is not such an easy task. And that holds true for anything these days.

The ONLY reason I'm getting 2142, is because you guys are making FS. If that mod didn't exist, I wouldn't even think twice about 2142.

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20 (edited by JeRK 2006-10-05 15:53:05)

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DICE should switch to a new pubisher. I mean hey, who wouldn't want to publish their games?
Guys, if the mod support fails at 2142, go ahead and port to UT or source. You guys are too good for EA.

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21 (edited by ArcAngel227 2006-10-05 16:12:13)

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I love bf's feel. Say what you want about ea/dice, but they can make some great games. Even if support and bugs suck.

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