Re: The next President of the United States of America

You'll find that the Congress tends to go along with the President anyway.

Much like the media , most will go along to get along.

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16 (edited by Canadiens1160 2007-03-16 02:37:43)

Re: The next President of the United States of America

Hilliary is a psycho bitch who will basically bandwagon any popular news-of-the-week cause to get herself publicity (see violent video game debate.

McCain, who I used to like, or at least not despise, has faded over the last few months and now is about zero-chance a viable candidate.

Let's not even talk about John Edwards the ambulance chaser, who takes every opportunity to apologize for voting for the war.

That leaves Obama and Rudy, and I'm not a fan of Rudy's pandering to staunch conservatives while at the same time trying to pull in the middle voters.

At least Obama is fallible - there's a good article in Slate right now discussing his misadventures in investing and how he's rectified the situation. I disagree that a presidential candidate needs to be completely spotless and Godlike.  He just shouldn't be a hamsters damned idiot.



As far as Bandu's suggested man for the job - listen, in order to do some good in politics you have to go with the system.  There is absolutely no chance in hell a great grassroots candidate who is not "high profile" will win a party nomination, let alone a general election.

I'm sure there are tens or perhaps even a hundred odd presidential write-in candidates who are even genuinely better men, Bandu, but they are absolutely irrelevant.  It's a two party system and it takes big money to even think about running.

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Re: The next President of the United States of America

Also, reading Ron Paul's platform, I can't help but find blaring contradictions.  For instance, he argues for the dismantling of the current welfare state and his site says he fights for senior citizens, but America's baby boomer generation is on the cusp of breaking the Social Security System once and for all.  America will, if anything, will need to introduce more social programs in the coming decade - even socialized healthcare, if it is to cope with this upcoming generation of seniors.

With the recent fiasco involving FEMA and the Katrina disaster, I'd argue that what America needs is not smaller government - it needs accountability starting from the top of the political ladder.

It's very easy to ignore the world outside of the United States in a bluster of calls for returning to the nation of the founding fathers, but the US is part of a global economy in which financial institutions and governments have the power.  I do subscribe to the Milton Friedman school of economics, however, and agree that the Fed needs to be severely restricted.  During his tenure, Alan Greenspan had as much real influential power as the rest of the government combined - and that IS a problem.

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FSDev| Bandu wrote:

Ignorance is far from my problem. I think its yours. There are many ways to get around the congress as Bush has shown already. How many bills has he had turned down? The original Millitary Commisions Act was turned down. All they did was put different wrapping paper on it and it passed. Greasing the treads. Greasing the treads.

Bush has vetoed the total of 1 bill. Which I believe was the stem cell research one two years ago. Bush hasn't been trying to get round the Congress all that much anyway, its the Supreme Court that's his problem really, and getting around them is something that the Congress would find MUCH easier than the President.

Can you actually give me a good example of Bush getting around the Congress?

Rudy? that guy is a despicable excuse for a human being. Ask the heros of 911 what they think of him. He is all about the money and banks. The complete opposite of what you need.

Oh, I hate the guy, but he would probably make a reasonable figurehead at least, and his background isn't too bad either.

Your whole  last paragraph is a joke tbph. Its people like Ron Paul who need people ,like you, to become "high profile". Why do you think that the man ,who epitomizes "land of the free", isnt high profile? ... (apart from the fact he is a threat to big corporations and banks)  ... well, its because  people get suckered into thinking that they have to vote for the lesser "high profile" candidates just so their vote counts.......which ,as Jay points out, is highly highly unlikely anyway .

Because he doesn't represent most people's opinions perhaps? Which however ill founded are STILL valid (I agree with you that the 'main' people aren't really the best ones for the job, but you make do with what you have really.)

At the end of the day apathy is the biggest problem in politics today - people by and large just don't care anymore who gets the nomination when they can hardly be bothered to even turn out for the main election.

Re: The next President of the United States of America

Canadiens . I believe people need to put aside some of the lesser issues (as important as they may be) in order to have some1 in power that would enable the Government ,and people , to step out of the  Federal Reserve/Private Central bank and all the debt , inflation and poverty that Fiat , paper money/digital money brings.  If the Federal Reserve was dismantled the people would see a massive benefit pretty much instantly . You may not know this but the Income Tax , which is collected off peoples labor , would not be needed since all the Income Tax ,from peoples labor(im not talkin about business') goes into repaying the debt the Government owes the private bank. (the Fed)

In closing, the Federal Reserve (the Bank of England) is the route cause of most of the major problems in our societies. We keep the Federal Reserve and it wont be too much longer until everyone needs to have an RFID chip implanted into them so they can get their "digital money". Think about that. That is slavery. People become like farm animals.


Demonic, yea , my mistake the MCA was dismissed by the Supreme Court. However , im certain the either the MCA or Patriot Act (maybe both) were rushed thro Congress (skids greads ..not treads greased wink ) . I'd get the source of this statement , im pretty sure it was Ron Paul , now..but iv gotta do some urgent FS work smile



I agree with your last statement about apathy. Its a major problem. Tho' I believe its because , in the main, people know its all rigged.  This is worse than not being bothered to vote , imo.  These  people, who believe its rigged but are still apathetic , are the biggest problem.

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Re: The next President of the United States of America

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18421356/ Go Ron Paul smile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA

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Who cares woh gets elected! China is going to convert to Euros and the whole world is going to be turned communist!

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