Re: First Stike Vs 2142

One of the best things about FS compared to Vanilla is the Assault/Trooper/Medic deal.  Having just had  blast as in Imp Medic (the E-11 Carbine rocks btw smile ) it was nice to feel i had a distinct role compared to the jack of all trades that Assault is in 2142.  Especially as in vanilla seeing several assault troops run straight past your corpse is bloody annoying, at least in FS you know there is a good chance the Medic will actually stop for the 0.2 seconds it takes to revive someone. smile

Re: First Stike Vs 2142

there is little point in having the supports troops in both FS and 2142. I would like to see the role expanded to include more things. alot of the things that could have been support troop functions have gone to the officer

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Re: First Stike Vs 2142

FSDev| RedMonkey999 wrote:
RagNoRock wrote:

There are more vehicles in 2142 then in FS (expecialy if you have the cheep cheep booster, I <3 NS was well worth 10$).  While I was playing beta 1.4 for 2142 the new map is Awsomeness incarnate.

Pilotable Vehicles in BF2142 (as of more than 1 year post release):
Gunship (PAC and EU are different only visually)
Transport (PAC and EU are different only visually)
APC (PAC and EU are different only visually)
PAC Walker
EU Walker
PAC Tank
EU Tank
FAV (Buggy)

Not included for reasons stated below: Hachimoto Hover Car Thing, Goliath APC

DistinctPilotable Vehicles in First Strike (as of R1):
TIE Fighter
TIE Bomber
TIE Interceptor
A-Wing
B-Wing
X-Wing
Y-Wing
ATST
Speederbike
Landspeeder
Correllian Corvette
Nebulon-B Frigate
Carrack Cruiser
Lancer Frigate

Each of these vehicles are distinctly different from each other; they carry different weapons, are more/less manueverable, are stronger/weaker, etc.

The gunships and Transports have different types of gun turrets, one has a mini gun essencialy and the other a slower but heavyer hitting gun.

You also forgot the Titan (4 lower turrets and 2 upper turrets), AA ground Turrets and anti-land ground turrets, which still technicaly count as vehicles.   FS only has the E-Web.

The Carrack (the small imp cap ship, forget which one it is), and the Corvette are identical both in terms of armorment and I think even turret location.   The Nebulon-B and the large Imp cap ship are Slightly different in location of weapons.

Another thing you failed to mention is how many of these vehicles are avaliable in each map.   On Land maps FS only has 5 vehicles, 2142 has 8-13 (depending on if its a titan map or not or if land only, not counting expansion vehicles).    In space maps in FS you get 12 different vehicles (since smaller caps are identical and you forgot to mention the healing ships), and ZERO customization.   You play as one of those 10 ships and thats all you do.  There is no changing load outs, nothing other then a Pistol that you cant even use for anything.

So untill you bring some of those Space Vehicles down to the land maps, include more turret options and provide customization (preferable land fighting) in space maps 2142 DOES have the advantage.

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Re: First Stike Vs 2142

RagNoRock wrote:
FSDev| RedMonkey999 wrote:
RagNoRock wrote:

There are more vehicles in 2142 then in FS (expecialy if you have the cheep cheep booster, I <3 NS was well worth 10$).  While I was playing beta 1.4 for 2142 the new map is Awsomeness incarnate.

Pilotable Vehicles in BF2142 (as of more than 1 year post release):
Gunship (PAC and EU are different only visually)
Transport (PAC and EU are different only visually)
APC (PAC and EU are different only visually)
PAC Walker
EU Walker
PAC Tank
EU Tank
FAV (Buggy)

Not included for reasons stated below: Hachimoto Hover Car Thing, Goliath APC

DistinctPilotable Vehicles in First Strike (as of R1):
TIE Fighter
TIE Bomber
TIE Interceptor
A-Wing
B-Wing
X-Wing
Y-Wing
ATST
Speederbike
Landspeeder
Correllian Corvette
Nebulon-B Frigate
Carrack Cruiser
Lancer Frigate

Each of these vehicles are distinctly different from each other; they carry different weapons, are more/less manueverable, are stronger/weaker, etc.

The gunships and Transports have different types of gun turrets, one has a mini gun essencialy and the other a slower but heavyer hitting gun.

You also forgot the Titan (4 lower turrets and 2 upper turrets), AA ground Turrets and anti-land ground turrets, which still technicaly count as vehicles.   FS only has the E-Web.

The Carrack (the small imp cap ship, forget which one it is), and the Corvette are identical both in terms of armorment and I think even turret location.   The Nebulon-B and the large Imp cap ship are Slightly different in location of weapons.

Another thing you failed to mention is how many of these vehicles are avaliable in each map.   On Land maps FS only has 5 vehicles, 2142 has 8-13 (depending on if its a titan map or not or if land only, not counting expansion vehicles).    In space maps in FS you get 12 different vehicles (since smaller caps are identical and you forgot to mention the healing ships), and ZERO customization.   You play as one of those 10 ships and thats all you do.  There is no changing load outs, nothing other then a Pistol that you cant even use for anything.

So untill you bring some of those Space Vehicles down to the land maps, include more turret options and provide customization (preferable land fighting) in space maps 2142 DOES have the advantage.

You do point out something.  First Strike lacks the "combined arms" kind of maps that are the hallmark of the Battlefield series.  This will most likely be one disadvantage that will get blown to smitherenes once the next release is out.

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Re: First Stike Vs 2142

the capital ships are quite fifferent. but yeah it needs more vehicles,  both 2142 and FS. hope 2142 gets more booster packs

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Re: First Stike Vs 2142

I think EA already announced it's not getting any more "booster packs".  2142 didn't perform as well as expected in the sales charts compared with BF2.

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Re: First Stike Vs 2142

Canadiens1160 wrote:

I think EA already announced it's not getting any more "booster packs".  2142 didn't perform as well as expected in the sales charts compared with BF2.

it was near the top for ages. you cant just compare it to bf2

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