Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

The eclipse is even bigger than the executor.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

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FSDev| TALON wrote:

That's kind of a pointless statement, as they are completely different ways to travel that aren't really comparable, they both do similar things just in different ways. One warps space around a vessel to achieve faster than light speeds and the other opens a portal to another dimension to circumvent the need for faster than light speeds. Unless you actually had a race from Sol to Alpha Centurai or something between a ship with a hyperdrive and a ship using warp drive (both of which I might add don't exist) who's to say which is the best/fastest mode of travel? It's fiction. And unless there are fictional, but canon figures to measure the speed these ships go at (admitedly there probably is in Trek circles due to the real world physics which tend to be employed by Trek fans and the various tech manuals), there are no such figures in the Star Wars universe as those movies were all about the adventure with the tech just as part of the scenery rather than the be all and end all.

In sw you can get across the galaxy in hours but in st it takes days and weeks to get across a quatre of the galaxy.

That is not exactly true. I can't remember the exact source, may have been a roleplaying games, so not exactly cast iron canon, but there was a hyperspace travel gazetteer that documented estimated travel times from location to location via hyperspace routes, they went into days of travel, and for some locations even weeks. That said, now someone has mentioned Voyager, yeah, they did take seven years to cross a galaxy at Warp whatever they were usually travelling at, so I guess using that as a yardstick Hyperspace travel is superior.

If I remember correctly it would have taken voyager 70 years to get home at fedration warp but they got some borg tech for getting there more quickly.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Yeah Hyperspace for simple speed trumps Warp easily. The main thing would be making these hyperspace routes (which took thousands of years to catalog) in the Milky Way galaxy.

53 (edited by Terrorek 2007-11-21 09:18:49)

Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

Ah, but they (SW folk) had to take thousands of years because somebody had to actually go in that direction, measure the gravity wells, and chart that system before continuing.

All the Empire need do is take one Federation ship, and download its star charts. The Federation has pretty detailed maps; sure, they're always exploring, but that's to go to each little system and make friends with everyone they meet. The Empire's first job in attacking would be to cripple any significant resistance, and make any secondary powers think twice before rising up.  They only have to destroy the fleets of the Federation and their Allies.

And, remember, the Federation is, predominantly in only one quadrant of the Milky Way galaxy.  And that's not a quarter of the galaxy, either.  The Alpha Quadrant is like a truncated wedge at most 60 degrees of the arc of the rim, going coreward about one-third the distance to center. Not much for the Empire to fight.

Now, the Federation would probably make deals with everyone they could, including the Borg and those in the Beta and Gamma Quadrants (Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, uhm... Breen... whatever), and if by then they could communicate with the Delta Q., they'd try that, too.  But the core of any resistance to the Empire would be the Federation, keeping the groups working together (or far apart, for those who don't work well with others).  The Empire could figure that out pretty quickly, I'm sure.

Side note: Anybody ever notice that the few times we saw Breen in ST:DS9 they had helmets near-exactly like the one Leia wore when selling Chewbacca to/rescuing Han from Jabba? Including the visor with a sort of floating zero-point grid?

Edit: Sorry, on a whim I decided to find pics of each to add to the post, and found that there are plenty of sites, including wikipedia, which note the similarity between the helmets, and reasons why. Just search for Breen and Boushh.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

if we think about this most people would probably side with the empire and give them the maps. the Borg would just be destroyed

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55 (edited by Emperor Norton I 2007-11-21 14:25:57)

Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

The Borg would spend all their resources taking over a giant ship, then using that giant ship to take over other ships and giant ships and so on. It'd be like a cancer.

The Romulans would be the only one's that might join the Empire and they don't know a thing beyond an isolationist bubble of space. The federation ships would also not be easily boarded as they don't have any ports for that and the Empire doesn't have transport technology.

Besides, the rebel alliance would be on the milky way's side.

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Re: Proof that star wars beats star trek.

The borg would be destroyed in seconds. they cant take the power of the smallest star destroyer.

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