Topic: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

I would like to know what you fans desire more.

Pick up kits, or wookiees and females being a class in the rebel army.

Notice I say CLASS not ARMY, I am talking about the devs replacing a human with a Wookiee and it having it's own voice commands or whatever. Or a Mon Cal being the officer class. Or the female. Basically anything as a class having it's own voice so when you use the commo rose you sound like your species/gender.

Now personally, I would much rather have Pick-up Kits, they add a new way to balance armies and provide a little spin on a battle when someone brings a more powerful weapon to the battle.

Sniper kits, demo kits, AT kits, AA kits, cloaking kits, jedi-jetpack kits (J/K) and other special weapons kits.

The devs have told us that they will not use Pick-up kits because of the voices, which they haven't even done yet (makes no sense to me tongue) and because they think allowing a player to pick up a fallen soldiers weapons turns them into Rambo do-everything soldiers.

However I know the latter to be false since I play PR on a daily basis and picking up kits does not create a Rambo player, its picking up a weapon and using it when you run out. I don't see the problem there since any player can man any vehicle, I think any player should be able to useany weapon too.

So, please post if you would rather have other races like the Wookiee, and Mon Cal be included in hte current 5 classes for the rebel army or have specialized pick up kits.

I vote Pick up kits.

(This isn't official or anything, but I am curious and maybe some light can be shed on me or the devs in hte form of your feedback. Please keep it to one post per person, with anything you have extra to say in your single post. Once there are enough replies people can start posting freely, but it's easier if yo ukeep it to one post for awhile.)

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

just to clarify, is this kits that dead soldiers have dropped or ones that spawn

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

i think its about those of killed players, though there might also be pickup kits

well, personally i would rather have pickup kits, since its easy in FS to run out of ammo (yes, thats why you got an officer/support) and just to add a bit diversity. but honestly, there is the bug, when you die in a group of "critically wounded" enemies and get revived by an ally, there is the chance of taking one of their kits, so that would also mix up voice commands (though things like that wont happen on a regular base)

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

You just don't know when to give up, do you Ty tongue ?

For pick-up kits myself. Except from fallen soldiers. I actually don't miss those, strange as it might sound. Let dropped special kits be retrievable, though, I'd like that. This'd allow for things like Pilot kits on That Combined Arms map, as well as splitting up classes so that you don't have to have few classes with many weapons and equipment.

If everyone are to be able to pick up every kit, there should be a delay between picking up kits so that you can't just pick up a medic kit, heal yourself, and go back to your old kit. I'm actually fine with doing things like this, but switching right back to your kit after you do it gets on my nerves.

Edit: This has been tried before.

Edit: Reply to stardestroyers: There are already armouries, with weapons racks and everything, they're just all empty.

So, does that mean you'd consider asking them about pick-up kits? smile

Heh heh, consider asking them? Ty's been harping about this for as long as I can remember. This is just his latest ploy big_smile !

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

I wouldnt mind if on maps with structures such as endor there could be some sort of an armory with different kits/guns/equipment available to be picked up.

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

So, does that mean you'd consider asking them about pick-up kits? smile

Having specialist kits would be cool. PR does a great job with it - limited pick-up kits work great there, increasing the number of classes available while keeping the number of specialists down.

For the alternate class models, though (which hasn't really been commented on yet)... I'd say that having Rebel Support use a Wookie model wouldn't be too much of a stretch - they've already got Bowcasters, as well as that different machete-like melee weapon. I'm split on having a female class in particular, though - first of all, it's stereotypical to have certain kits be female... but it's just as stereotypical to have an all-male army.

...but, hold on - if pick-up kits aren't allowed because of voice commands, mightn't adding Wookie/Female voices be just the problem the devs are thinking of? AFAIK, all voices on each team use the same soundset, and even if they don't... is it possible to bind a voice to a specific kit? Not to mention that picking up kits would look strange - if a Wookie grabs a pickup kit, do they change into a human? I'm possibly mistaken, but I assume that each class has one model tied to it. If that model is human, then a Wookie would no longer look like a Wookie after grabbing a human kit.

Gah. I just discovered that I really know almost nothing about the 2142 coding engine. If a dev can take a break from testing/developing 1.2, could they give us a word on the feasability of these potential changes?

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Re: Poll, sorta. Voices or Pick-up Kits.

Ok just to clarify and explain it to you all a bit more.

This is for both soldiers kits, and special kits in armories and such.

Please don't get all tecnical into the coding, the trade off is Wookiees/Mon Cals/Females in the regular Rebel army, or Pick-up kits. That's just the way it would work if you don't want the odd situations.

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