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It is true. I know for a fact it is, in general, true. In my previous job my foremans brother was/is in the SAS .

As for you defeating us, well , yea kinda , but we actually owned you ( not the "OMGz OWNED!!11" kind of way wink ) . The fact our Empire was massive meant we couldnt hold on to all sectors. No way, it was impossible and you just have to look thro the history of other empires to know that. We ruled thro fear more than manpower.


Oh , and a monket is a a new kind of monkey i just made up wink  (typo)

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You did not "own" us, you were indeed more powerful, but it was not just your poor governmental governing skills, we used advanced tactics such as aiming*, guerilla tactics, and sniping.

*At the time aiming was not a usual practice as when fired the musket commonly caused powder burns to the face, such as when the British fired their weapons, they looked away which is why you hear "ready,aim,fire!" from the U.S. captains in colonial war movies. I do infact have a deep respect for the British and the British military, I just know the facts.






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1991 Gulf War hunt and destroy Scud Missile Launchers deep in Iraqi Territory.
"...eight-man SAS patrol cut off deep in Iraq during a scud-busting raid. Discovered by the Iraqis, they supposedly fought their way to the Syrian border over a distance of 120 miles, killing around 250 Iraqi soldiers along the way. Four members of the patrol were captured and tortured, and three were killed in action. Corporal Chris Ryan managed to escape across the border to Syria. "

I saw a show about that raid, was pretty damn awsome.

As hesitant as I am to enter a SAS vs. US Special Forces, I absolutely believe both are just as well trained. Seriously they train with each other. There are no secrets in special forces tactics.
One thing however that is different, is really technological advantadges. I'm far from saying the SAS are old fashioned. But seriously the amount of really freaking awsome tools the US Special Forces have is stifling.
First and foremost (imho), you have the our very large nuclear submarine fleet, in which Seals base off all the time. We have the SDV (Seal Delivery Vehicle) minisubs worked down a science. Now the Brits base off their uclear submarines too, but there simply isn't as much of them, so it takes longer to set a raid (or whatever their doing) up becuase odds are there simply isn't a british sub in that particular area. The large amount of US subs ensure much quicker rapid response, anywhere in the world.
Now another big advantadge with the US is that the US Navy is really diving into the idea of sub based seals. As a result of this we're seeing several very capable sub platforms, new and converted, to special operations use as a PRIMARY feature.
http://www.csg2.navy.mil/Jimmy%20Carter/Jimmy%20Carter%20Front.jpg

Now many Special Forces missions aren't quick, in and out raids. Many of them have teams operating out of areas, communicating and training with locals, and gathering intel.
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The M80 is a new class of Special Operations support boats. Its a vey low profile vessel, radar resistant, and low to the water. It has a very shallow draft, enabling it to operate right of the coast. This craft can operate a few miles from the coast of an operating area, undetected, and support a team of SpecOps units. It can create its own cellular network with heavy encription, snoop the air waves to keep the team in touch with an enemy's movements and ever changing rules of engagment. In addition to the ability to launch a zodiac with a team, it also has the ability to launch and operate several types of unmaned vehicles, above and below water. Basically, a single one of these vessels can become very fast mobile field head quarters, constantly in touch with both Washington and the team's its cordinating. The deadliest weapon is a radio.
Lastly the MV-22 Osprey.
http://www.flightnest.com/wp-content/uploads/V-22%20Osprey.jpg
I'm sure you all already know all about the Osprey, especially it's spotty record. Basically the key advandtage here is speed. It can fly fast, stay low, and deploy a large amount of troops and light vehicles.
You can say whatever you want about the US's bloated defense budget. These things are flashy, and fancy yes, but most of all they change the way we can play the game. When you can put an effective SpecOps force on the ground anywhere in the world, at a large multipitude of locations at once, whenever you want, and then maintain perfect, low risk, comunication with them at all times, that is a deadly force. A Seal is no better than a SAS serviceman, accept at when they show up.
But its a moot point, seeing as they work in concert.

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"when the British fired their weapons, they looked away which is why you hear "ready,aim,fire!"  "

Really? I guess the reputation they got during the Napoleonic wars for delivering ACCURATE and deadly fire is bs then eh.


And just to add a bit of fuel to the fire , you can thank the French for winning the War of Independance wink .

26 (edited by ArcAngel227 2006-10-03 17:38:48)

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LoL. I will never claim that the French did not win that war for us. America was saved by france. The only thing more embarresing than being saved by the french, is being BEATEN by the french. tongue

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ArcAngel227 wrote:

LoL. I will never claim that the French did not win that war for us. America was saved by france. The only thing more embarresing than being saved by the french, is being BEATEN by the french. tongue

lol

But seriously, why try and compete with each other? After all we are allies.

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Well ya like I said wayyyy up there ^, its a pretty moot point. We all work seamlessly (ish) with one another. That dosn't mean I'll stop eating my 'freedom' fries tho. tongue

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