FSDev| xEROhOUR wrote:1991 Gulf War hunt and destroy Scud Missile Launchers deep in Iraqi Territory.
"...eight-man SAS patrol cut off deep in Iraq during a scud-busting raid. Discovered by the Iraqis, they supposedly fought their way to the Syrian border over a distance of 120 miles, killing around 250 Iraqi soldiers along the way. Four members of the patrol were captured and tortured, and three were killed in action. Corporal Chris Ryan managed to escape across the border to Syria. "
I saw a show about that raid, was pretty damn awsome.
As hesitant as I am to enter a SAS vs. US Special Forces, I absolutely believe both are just as well trained. Seriously they train with each other. There are no secrets in special forces tactics.
One thing however that is different, is really technological advantadges. I'm far from saying the SAS are old fashioned. But seriously the amount of really freaking awsome tools the US Special Forces have is stifling.
First and foremost (imho), you have the our very large nuclear submarine fleet, in which Seals base off all the time. We have the SDV (Seal Delivery Vehicle) minisubs worked down a science. Now the Brits base off their uclear submarines too, but there simply isn't as much of them, so it takes longer to set a raid (or whatever their doing) up becuase odds are there simply isn't a british sub in that particular area. The large amount of US subs ensure much quicker rapid response, anywhere in the world.
Now another big advantadge with the US is that the US Navy is really diving into the idea of sub based seals. As a result of this we're seeing several very capable sub platforms, new and converted, to special operations use as a PRIMARY feature.
Now many Special Forces missions aren't quick, in and out raids. Many of them have teams operating out of areas, communicating and training with locals, and gathering intel.
The M80 is a new class of Special Operations support boats. Its a vey low profile vessel, radar resistant, and low to the water. It has a very shallow draft, enabling it to operate right of the coast. This craft can operate a few miles from the coast of an operating area, undetected, and support a team of SpecOps units. It can create its own cellular network with heavy encription, snoop the air waves to keep the team in touch with an enemy's movements and ever changing rules of engagment. In addition to the ability to launch a zodiac with a team, it also has the ability to launch and operate several types of unmaned vehicles, above and below water. Basically, a single one of these vessels can become very fast mobile field head quarters, constantly in touch with both Washington and the team's its cordinating. The deadliest weapon is a radio.
Lastly the MV-22 Osprey.
I'm sure you all already know all about the Osprey, especially it's spotty record. Basically the key advandtage here is speed. It can fly fast, stay low, and deploy a large amount of troops and light vehicles.
You can say whatever you want about the US's bloated defense budget. These things are flashy, and fancy yes, but most of all they change the way we can play the game. When you can put an effective SpecOps force on the ground anywhere in the world, at a large multipitude of locations at once, whenever you want, and then maintain perfect, low risk, comunication with them at all times, that is a deadly force. A Seal is no better than a SAS serviceman, accept at when they show up.
But its a moot point, seeing as they work in concert.
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) . The fact our Empire was massive meant we couldnt hold on to all sectors. No way, it was impossible and you just have to look thro the history of other empires to know that. We ruled thro fear more than manpower. 
