29 (edited by Samuel_L_Jedi 2007-12-30 17:37:57)

Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

Yultemsee, I have no idea what is possible. That's up to the devs or whoever else is highly literate in the use of the BF2142 engine. Of course, if you are a dev, and know that this or that critical aspect of being a jedi cannot be done, or would be done poorly, then the case is closed on the matter.

Give it a rest? Yes, I have rested my case. I felt it important to go on at length merely because, due to many responses, I felt (and still feel) that my posts are not being thoroughly read and comprehended. Sadly, this is common when a reader is, from the start, biased against what the author has to say and approaches the subject matter with a closed mind, thinking only of ways to counter.

Even as of the last few posts, it's clear to me from ignorant, repetitive comments such as "if you want jedi go play Battlefront 2" that my arguments are not being read or given proper counter-arguments, let alone given consideration. In fact, my favorite maps are space maps. I don't care overmuch about jumping around with a shiny stick.

Regardless, barring more posts from others furthering the discussion on this thread, all I have to say on the matter has been said.

As for myself, I will continue to play the mod and see how things go, but again, what is sapping my interest is the lack of other players. If the devs feel that the best idea to handle this issue is to coast along and hope for the best with the new patch, that's on them. However, I can tell you, the most common complaint I here on the server from players I've not seen before is "wow, are there usually so few people on?" and I never see that person again.

Remember, what I've said is for the purpose of being proactive is filling servers. Implementing Jedi is, I'm sure, not the only means of achieving this end. However, may I suggest that you all do more than shoot down the ideas of others and start providing your own thoughts on resolving this issue...or, do you all not even consider the lack of players an issue?

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Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

We always consider the issues, and yes we are reading your posts. We are just telling you, as this is the way it has been for a LONG time, even on GC, there have not been jedi on FS or GC before it, and will not be jedi on FS. This has been discussed many times on both mods, so stop asking! It is not going to happen!

Curses, foiled again!

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Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

we as a community can wish all we like but if something cannot be done it cannot be done.  I am not for or against jedi really but it cant be done.

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32 (edited by Delta_Fixer 2007-12-30 19:13:13)

Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

How many Jedi/ Sith total did we see in the original SW Trilogy? Five: Vader, Obi Wan, Yoda, and Luke, nd the Emperor. There just weren't Jedi/ Sith leading military units in the days of the Repulic. Adding Jedi to FS just wouldn't be lore accurate ... 'nuff said.

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Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

Personally I think a Jedi can't be make with the BF2 / BF 2142 Engine.

It's made for large numbers of Player on large maps with Tanks and Fighters - not for Swordplay.
A lightsaber as "Superknife" may be possible, even Forceeffects like Lightnings or Push away a trooper - but Deflecting the Shots with the lightsaber ?

But a Lame Jedi wouldn't bring much more Players for the Hardcore StarWars Fans.
And most of the BF 2142 Players aren't hardcore StarWars Fans.
The Best way to bring them over to play FirstStrike is to give em new Maps (Like Endor or Hoth) and new Gamemodes (like SpaceBattles) to play.
Even in BF2 with much more greater Playerbase only a small Part is playing Mods.

The Best Way to recruit more players is also to recruit them. Ask the people in your Buddylist to download the mod.
Play regulary, and play good. Create Squads, act as team, have fun.

Make a campaign with fixed Teams for Empire and Rebels and play the Maps in chronologic Order, every two weeks a Battle.

This will be better than even the best Jedi.

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Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

Samuel_L_Jedi wrote:

Yultemsee, I have no idea what is possible. That's up to the devs or whoever else is highly literate in the use of the BF2142 engine. Of course, if you are a dev, and know that this or that critical aspect of being a jedi cannot be done, or would be done poorly, then the case is closed on the matter.

~~~(Didn't read useless paragraphs in the middle)~~~

However, may I suggest that you all do more than shoot down the ideas of others and start providing your own thoughts on resolving this issue...or, do you all not even consider the lack of players an issue?

(Edited)
I know that this or that critical aspect of being a jedi cannot be done, or would be done poorly, so the case is closed on the matter.


I have given my thoughts to the devs multiple times, thank you very much. I just don't say it on the public boards because then I get a bunch of stupid responses from people who don't know a damn thing about what they are saying.

The issues will be addressed in due time, you think you are the only one who can read player counts on the server lists?

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35 (edited by Safe-Keeper 2007-12-31 00:53:21)

Re: Now Here's a Subject That Will Get a Negative Outcry...

OK, let me just say that I dislike it when people use near-empty servers as an excuse to add features, be it when they rail against realism, push for Jedi, or want some other feature included. I'm bound by an NDA here, but rest assured, the devs are working on some great new things for the game that will up the player count. You make it sound as if Jedi are the only possible thing that'll add to the game.

If you're telling me however, that you would rather see the mod die than even consider making REVOCABLE concessions, your outlook is sadly far too extreme for me to make further attempts reason with.

False dilemma. And either way, it's not just about adding players, it's about gameplay, realism, fun, immersion, and other such important things. Adding a President George W. Bush class and a Texan longhorn for him to ride into battle with his trusty shotgun, Bible and Convert People to da Lawd special ability might attract certain people to Project Reality, but would it add to the game any tongue ?

Edit: You know what would be funny? If there WERE jedi, but it were like a dev ability.

Heeey! That I would like! Devs only get to choose a Jedi master class, testers get a padawan class with limited powers! Now we're talking!

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